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Why are you (still) a Christian?
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Bucky Ball
badass messiah  Religious Views: Igtheist .. there is no coherent definition of the word "god"
I forgot to mention the most important reason I would still be a Christian.
Donut Sunday.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
 Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist  (September 7, 2023 at 1:27 pm)tackattack Wrote: 1. There are plenty of independent surviving texts as sources for Jesus being a living person in the past, that He was Jewish and Baptized, and that He was crucified. I believe there is no logical reason or benefit to the resurrection and tomb story. I have personal experience and what I consider reliable subjective external experiences, along with studies that indicate brain activity doesn't necessarily stop at death and that it is a uniquely human response to death to have NDE, indicating the possibility of consciousness surviving death is not 0% , IMO. Citations needed.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
Bucky Ball
badass messiah Religious Views: Igtheist .. there is no coherent definition of the word "god" RE: Why are you (still) a Christian?
September 8, 2023 at 10:37 am
(This post was last modified: September 8, 2023 at 10:38 am by Bucky Ball.)
The neurologists and neurosurgeons of the planet will be very interested hear about dead people that have brain activity,
especially in light of the fact that "brain death" is defined as the lack of brain activity, and used every day to define death in every hospital in the entire world.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist  (September 5, 2023 at 5:12 am)Belacqua Wrote: It seems to me that in most times and in most places, religion is more about ritual and performance than about assent to propositions. It's something people DO. I believe what distinguishes "spiritual" from "religious" is communal participation in worship of the Divine, through practices, such as ritual and prayer, that connect us with other believers through the Divine.
<insert profound quote here>
RE: Why are you (still) a Christian?
September 9, 2023 at 2:58 pm
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2023 at 3:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Not so much communal participation itself as the opportunity -for- communal participation. That is, after all, one of the basic factors between some collection of things a person believes...and a religion. OTOH, you could be the only christian on an alien planet, you would still be religious, and you could be surrounded by other people who also believe in spirits and -not- have a community to interact with, religiously, because no one else believes what you do about those spirits or that divine or what they mean.
Fucking messy, if you ask me.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
  RE: Why are you (still) a Christian?
September 10, 2023 at 8:38 pm
(This post was last modified: September 10, 2023 at 8:41 pm by ronedee.)
 (September 4, 2023 at 4:26 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I can understand the various reasons that someone may convert, but I'm curious as to why someone would retain their belief after years of being a Christian and having spent time studying the bible and theology, looking at arguments for/against, and so on. No particular philosophical position, specific events or inner feelings or intuition. I was an unbeliever for 27 years, and became a believer 30 years ago. To me it makes the most sense. I can see the ration and logic in a purely atheistic position but I can't see the sense in militant fundamentalist atheism.  (September 13, 2023 at 8:10 pm)Data Wrote: No particular philosophical position, specific events or inner feelings or intuition. I was an unbeliever for 27 years, and became a believer 30 years ago. To me it makes the most sense. I can see the ration and logic in a purely atheistic position but I can't see the sense in militant fundamentalist atheism. Theist: "The first thing that existed in the universe was an intelligent, powerful being who created everything else by speaking it into existence." Atheist: "I don't believe you." Militant Fundamentalist Atheist: "No, seriously, I don't believe you." (September 13, 2023 at 8:22 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:(September 13, 2023 at 8:10 pm)Data Wrote: No particular philosophical position, specific events or inner feelings or intuition. I was an unbeliever for 27 years, and became a believer 30 years ago. To me it makes the most sense. I can see the ration and logic in a purely atheistic position but I can't see the sense in militant fundamentalist atheism. Good call for the militant fundamentalist atheist. The creator of the universe doesn't exist, nor has ever appeared in the universe. He can't. |
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