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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 1:03 am
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Here's an idea: There cannot have been 'nothing' from all eternity. Otherwise, nothing would now be in existence. From nothing comes nothing. Then you continue by saying, "Trust me, I know it wasn't God; it has to be unequivocally, energy and matter are eternal."
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 1:32 am
(November 3, 2023 at 1:03 am)snowtracks Wrote: Here's an idea: There cannot have been 'nothing' from all eternity. Otherwise, nothing would now be in existence. From nothing comes nothing. Then you continue by saying, "Trust me, I know it wasn't God; it has to be unequivocally, energy and matter are eternal."
Poor religious people. They are still kept in the dark and fed with lies about scientific discoveries.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 12:44 pm
(November 3, 2023 at 1:03 am)snowtracks Wrote: Here's an idea: There cannot have been 'nothing' from all eternity. Otherwise, nothing would now be in existence. From nothing comes nothing. Then you continue by saying, "Trust me, I know it wasn't God; it has to be unequivocally, energy and matter are eternal."
Nothingness seems to be a state of affairs that is necessarily brief. How long can it last, without time? And then there are virtual particles popping into existence all of the time, literally out of nothing.
Has your idea of God been around for eternity, or just since the beginning of time?
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 12:51 pm
Is "snowtracks" in reference to all the lines of cocaine that have etched deep ridges in your cognitive abilities?
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 7:09 pm
(November 3, 2023 at 1:03 am)snowtracks Wrote: Here's an idea: There cannot have been 'nothing' from all eternity.
Proof or bullshit, what will he trot out to prove that?
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 7:11 pm
There might never have been nothing at all. It's something humans can't really imagine but that doesn't mean it can't be true.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 7:13 pm
(November 3, 2023 at 7:11 pm)Ahriman Wrote: There might never have been nothing at all. It's something humans can't really imagine but that doesn't mean it can't be true.
Matter and anti-matter weren't quite balanced during the Big Bang. Everything we see results from that difference.
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 7:24 pm
(November 3, 2023 at 7:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (November 3, 2023 at 7:11 pm)Ahriman Wrote: There might never have been nothing at all. It's something humans can't really imagine but that doesn't mean it can't be true.
Matter and anti-matter weren't quite balanced during the Big Bang. Everything we see results from that difference.
But how do you know that?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 9:03 pm
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(November 3, 2023 at 7:24 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (November 3, 2023 at 7:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Matter and anti-matter weren't quite balanced during the Big Bang. Everything we see results from that difference.
But how do you know that?
The bulk of the visible universe behaves like "normal" matter. The massive amount of free energy came, according to best current estimate, from the matter/antimatter annihilation event commonly called "the big bang." To quote Mike Rowe, "it wasn't big and it didn't bang". But the intent is workable. Then Alan Guth came along and made things interesting.
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 3, 2023 at 9:04 pm
(November 3, 2023 at 7:24 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (November 3, 2023 at 7:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Matter and anti-matter weren't quite balanced during the Big Bang. Everything we see results from that difference.
But how do you know that?
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