(June 25, 2024 at 4:50 am)Foxaèr Wrote: My takeaway, it's okay to use it as a historical reference.

Or a social reference or a cultural reference or a literary reference or an artistic reference...But I shudder to think of the amount of moderation that would require.

Boru

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When someone opens with a thread on racial slurs, you can be pretty sure they didn't show up for any real conversation. It's click bait with the intention of starting some shit.

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(June 25, 2024 at 4:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I like to think that there's a difference between using racist language and simply saying words with a racist connotation. Consider the following hypothetical post:

'Mark Twain's classic Huckleberry Finn contains 219 uses of [the n-word], which means Twain was a filthy, degenerate [n-word] lover.'

The first clause is a simple statement of a literary fact and is clearly not using the word as a slur. I don't think it can be argued that the second clause is so innocuous.

This is the chief source of my issue with the rule as it stands, but I don't see any way round it.

Boru

I read The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and also Huckleberry Finn (un-PC versions) to my son when he was around 9.  I used the use of language as a teaching moment, explaining to him that they were written in another time and about another time and explained why certain words were no longer acceptable.  

I'll add that husband was raised in the dirty south and he frequently threw around the 'n' word as well as tending to refer to women as bitches.  I learned from being around his family and around the people we lived among that this was something that was commonplace.  Because of my kids not being raised in that way I worked hard to erase those words from his regular vocabulary.  He may still talk like that out among the "boys" but he knows it's not acceptable around me or my kids or grandkids.  Again, a teaching moment.

Probably the best qualifier of whether a particular word is offensive to the point of being a slur is to use it at a gathering where you are the only person there to whom that slur doesn’t apply. F’instance, try using the n-word at a BLM event, or one of the many uncharitable words for Muslims at an ISIS planning session.

Boru

(June 25, 2024 at 6:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Probably the best qualifier of whether a particular word is offensive to the point of being a slur is to use it at a gathering where you are the only person there to whom that slur doesn’t apply. F’instance, try using the n-word at a BLM event, or one of the many uncharitable words for Muslims at an ISIS planning session.

Boru

Like “Sand-Frican American?”

(June 25, 2024 at 6:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Probably the best qualifier of whether a particular word is offensive to the point of being a slur is to use it at a gathering where you are the only person there to whom that slur doesn’t apply. F’instance, try using the n-word at a BLM event, or one of the many uncharitable words for Muslims at an ISIS planning session.

Boru

Oh, come on. Why should anyone do anything risky like that when they may simply type behind a monitor and not risk a curb-stomp?

Not that there's a lot of [insert slur here, plural] in mom's basement.

(June 25, 2024 at 2:18 am)pocaracas Wrote: There's a magical word.... It has an n, an i, two g's and r and an e... And its been used to shame people for ages

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