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RE: Elon Musk
October 25, 2024 at 12:22 am
Musk's sudden enthusiastic support for Trump begins to make more sense when you know Putin is in his ear.
Quote:Elon Musk has regularly talked with Vladimir Putin — and faced 'implicit threats'
Several current and former officials for the U.S., Europe and Russia told The Wall Street Journal Musk has discussed personal topics, business and geopolitical issues, with Putin at one point asking Musk to avoid activating his Starlink satellites and providing internet service over Taiwan.
The report revealed that in 2022, the world's richest man was under public and private pressure from the Kremlin.
Later in 2022, Musk was having regular conversations with 'high-level Russians,' according to a person familiar with the interactions. At the time, there was pressure from the Kremlin on Musk’s businesses and 'implicit threats against him,' the person said.
That same year, Musk began pushing more Russian-aligned stances, including that SpaceX was losing money by funding terminals in Ukraine, as well as asking his followers on his app, X, to support peace plans that "mirrored some aspects of the Kremlin's offer to Ukraine," the Journal reported. Additionally, Musk has become more critical of American military aid to Ukraine.
https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2669477305/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Elon Musk
October 25, 2024 at 1:38 am
(October 25, 2024 at 12:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Musk's sudden enthusiastic support for Trump begins to make more sense when you know Putin is in his ear.
Quote:Elon Musk has regularly talked with Vladimir Putin — and faced 'implicit threats'
Several current and former officials for the U.S., Europe and Russia told The Wall Street Journal Musk has discussed personal topics, business and geopolitical issues, with Putin at one point asking Musk to avoid activating his Starlink satellites and providing internet service over Taiwan.
The report revealed that in 2022, the world's richest man was under public and private pressure from the Kremlin.
Later in 2022, Musk was having regular conversations with 'high-level Russians,' according to a person familiar with the interactions. At the time, there was pressure from the Kremlin on Musk’s businesses and 'implicit threats against him,' the person said.
That same year, Musk began pushing more Russian-aligned stances, including that SpaceX was losing money by funding terminals in Ukraine, as well as asking his followers on his app, X, to support peace plans that "mirrored some aspects of the Kremlin's offer to Ukraine," the Journal reported. Additionally, Musk has become more critical of American military aid to Ukraine.
https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2669477305/
Musk would desire a true oligarchy that benefits the billionaire class. It's only natural he should shill for an autocrat who enables billionaires who support him and throws others out windows.
If Musk was actually smart, he'd support a system that enables his enrichment without at the same time threatening to defenestrate him.
If.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 26, 2024 at 1:07 pm
Quote:WASHINGTON (AP) — Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of major government contractor SpaceX and a key ally of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, has been in regular contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin for the last two years, The Wall Street Journal reported.
A person familiar with the situation, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter, confirmed to The Associated Press that Musk and Putin have had contact through calls. The person didn’t provide additional details about the frequency of the calls, when they occurred or their content.
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During one talk, Putin asked Musk not to activate his Starlink satellite system over Taiwan as a favor for Chinese President Xi Jinping, whose ties to Putin have grown closer, the Journal reported. Putin and Xi have met more than 40 times since 2013.
Musk’s relationship with Putin raises national security questions given the billions of dollars in government contracts awarded to SpaceX, a critical partner to NASA and government satellite programs.
Trump also has vowed to give Musk a role in his administration if he wins next month.
Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul said it’s unusual for business leaders to be in contact with Putin without informing U.S. authorities. While CEOs may often interact with foreign leaders, Putin stands apart, given his invasion of Ukraine, McFaul said.
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“He’s a war criminal who is slaughtering civilians. That makes this wrong in my view,” McFaul said of Musk’s talks with Putin. “You have to decide what team you are on. Are you on the American team or are you on the Russian team?”
The request from Putin on Starlink as a favor to China is likely to get attention, given U.S. support for Taiwan and concerns about the growing partnership between the Kremlin and Beijing.
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U.S. intelligence officials and private sector analysts have concluded that Russia is working to covertly support Trump with disinformation and propaganda targeting his Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris. Since Musk took over X, it has become a leading online source of Russian propaganda and disinformation aimed at Americans.
https://apnews.com/article/musk-putin-x-...71280ae179
Where's the FBI counterintel units when you need them?
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RE: Elon Musk
October 26, 2024 at 2:01 pm
I'm sure there is quite a bit of FBI activity going on behind the scene. I just hope it's enough.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 26, 2024 at 2:20 pm
Elon Musk Wants to Deport People Living in the United States Illegally—Just Like He Once Did
Elon Musk, the billionaire founder of Space X and Tesla, and the world’s richest man, is convinced that immigrants who have lived and worked in the United States without legal authorization are destabilizing American democracy.
As the Post story laid out, Musk was working for his first company, an online business and city directory called Zip2, while living in the United States, officially, as a student. But he never actually took classes at Stanford University—a precondition for staying in the US. A former board member, Derek Proudian, supplied the story’s money quote. The mindset within the company at the time, he told the paper, was “we don’t want our founder being deported.”
Musk does not really have a problem with South African computer programmers skirting the rules. He, like Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, has a problem with the specific kinds of migrants coming from specific kinds of places. In a 2023 response to an antisemitic X user who claimed that Western Jews deserved no sympathy because they invited “hordes of minorities” to their countries, Musk wrote, “You have said the absolute truth.”
What makes migrants undesirable, to the people demanding these crackdowns, is not their status but who they are and why they’re here. It’s why Vance can say that Haitians with legal status are “illegals” anyway. As a proponent of scientific racism, Musk believes migrants from the Global South are being imported as part of a massive plot to reshape the country’s demography and elect Democrats forever.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/202...-once-did/
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RE: Elon Musk
October 26, 2024 at 2:57 pm
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^ Not sure that that is such a bad thing- the Democrats. And fuck Elon.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 26, 2024 at 4:14 pm
It is no given that immigrants will vote democratic. When I lived in Florida I was always annoyed by the fact that most Cuban immigrants voted Republican.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 26, 2024 at 4:22 pm
(October 26, 2024 at 4:14 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: It is no given that immigrants will vote democratic. When I lived in Florida I was always annoyed by the fact that most Cuban immigrants voted Republican.
It's akin to black people being conservative, too. Like have they forgotten what was done to them due to the kind of conservative thinking that has never deviated from its bigoted origins?
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RE: Elon Musk
October 26, 2024 at 4:33 pm
In the case of Cubans, they perceive that Democrats are soft on Cuba and by extension, the Castro regime.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 27, 2024 at 10:55 pm
Elon posted his MAGA hat which uses the Fraktur font, popular in nazi Germany. He wore this at a rally meant to evoke the 1939 nazi rally at Madison Square Garden.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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