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Poll: Do you fear your own death?
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I believe in an afterlife, and am fearful over the idea of my own death.
0%
0 0%
I believe in an afterlife, and have no fear of my own death.
6.00%
3 6.00%
I do not believe in an afterlife, and am fearful over the idea of my own death.
18.00%
9 18.00%
I do not believe in an afterlife, and have no fear of my own death.
62.00%
31 62.00%
Other [please explain]
14.00%
7 14.00%
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Fear of death
#71
RE: Fear of death
You won't, cos it'll just turn black. For ever. You won't even know you ever lived.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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#72
RE: Fear of death
(January 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: The first part of my statement was to show the hopelessness of non belief in God.
You should appreciate the futility of having any belief in a god or gods. You're going to die regardless. A cold fact of life I'm afraid.


Quote:The second part was to show that, after we are gone death has an effect on the ones that loved us and that is the part of death we should fear.
Explicitly, we're addressing whether we have any fear of our own death. Obviously, while we're alive now we can contemplate that family and loved ones are going to be grieving over our deaths. Our passing away has no doubt made their life a little colder, and little more unbearable than before. Thoughts of how they're going to survive without us and alone in the world brings us no comfort whatsoever, but we're not talking about regrets, we're discussing fear. Nearly everyone dies with regrets, Christians are no exception.


Quote:However as a christian I see a need for the non believer to have a fear of death.
Now you're just being a dick-head. I told you before just because you're afraid gives you no damn right to instil fear in others.


Quote:By the way my sentience is ever lasting, eternal, forever and ect. I will enjoy it especially on the other side.
I was going to humour you, but after that previous pompous statement and now this egoistical jerk off you just ejaculated here I thought, nah, fuck it. Listen up - death is final. That means you'll never know you once lived or died once you're dead. The afterlife you eagerly await will never come for this reason.
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#73
RE: Fear of death
(January 1, 2012 at 11:15 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: You won't, cos it'll just turn black. For ever. You won't even know you ever lived.

I talked about this point in one of my early posts (here for reference). I have no concerns about my own death from a personal perspective. I do feel bad, however, for those I leave behind.

I do have other thoughts and ideas on the subject brought about by (deeply) personal experience; one day I might even be able to share them.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#74
RE: Fear of death
(January 2, 2012 at 3:24 am)Stimbo Wrote:
(January 1, 2012 at 11:15 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: You won't, cos it'll just turn black. For ever. You won't even know you ever lived.
I do have other thoughts and ideas on the subject brought about by (deeply) personal experience; one day I might even be able to share them.
If you ever feel like sharing feel free to Email me, I've got quite the interest in the subject and always enjoy listening to what others have to say. Smile
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#75
RE: Fear of death
I'll bear that in mind. At the moment it's all too raw and painful for me to contemplate.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#76
RE: Fear of death
(January 2, 2012 at 3:40 am)Stimbo Wrote: I'll bear that in mind. At the moment it's all too raw and painful for me to contemplate.

Poltergiest 2 thats where I know your avatar from.......

Sorry.


Carry on.



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#77
RE: Fear of death
(January 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: However as a christian I see a need for the non believer to have a fear of death. By the way my sentience is ever lasting, eternal, forever and ect. I will enjoy it especially on the other side.

It just never ends with you... between the black and the red, you tell a little white lie. Your identity is Christian. You have Faith, no? You invest that Faith in Christianity, yes?

That is going to cost you. If you go quick, you got no problems. If you go slow... back away from the scripture for a second, so that you may understand a key element of "translation error."

Eternal is not forever - in no way, shape, or form. Eternal, is timelessness. Beyond the threshold of eternity is beauty for all - don't even kid yourself that it is otherwise - approaching the threshold, however - that's where metaphysics, mathematics, modern science - come head on with morality.

We process information at a certain rate and a certain efficiency; that is because of the organics, because of experience, because of the weight of the background processing. Whether you like it or not, we are animals, we are natural, we are evolved; the organics know, critical failure. Processes start to shut down. The background processing becomes completely unnecessary - it is safe to say - you have absolutely no idea of the scope of the background processing...

Do you know why you guys don't like evolution? The real reason? Don't blink. Devil

YHWH didn't tell you about the blink, did he? Tricky fuck, that YHWH; but hey, he did put the "everything else" at the beginning - in Job - like a god would do. Look towards nature, sayeth the YHWH, clear as fuck in Job. What you are looking at, with Genesis and creationism... one is Moses and backstory, the other should be impossible... but yay Christianity!

The wrong that cannot be made right, creationism; the evil that cannot be justified. The testimony of the dead to the lies of the living, creationism, your sin - that would bring you down - should you choose to accept in.

My advice? Bail. Now. Not Christainty, not YHWH, most definitely not faith - but remove any and all faith investment in creationism - and I'll tell you how you avoid hell, should you go slow.

When you blink - everything - is simulated. You got any computer geek in you? You know what I'm saying, everything is simulated? You starting to catch on to what I'm talking about, background processing? You cats wanna bail on YHWH, talk about Jesus, act like you know something... but there's YHWH, in the Koran, laying it out, pro-style.

Your own soul will bring you down.

What is your own soul going to do with a minute of processing time left to the brain at the threshold - you go slow, questioning your morality?

Lemme tell you how it is, straight up. You have no conception of how long a minute is, you call eternity, forever. But you are also quite capable of torturing yourself for a few thousand years when you are at the threshold, and you know you fucked the dog.

Your words, in black and read, convict you. Yet you still see a need to convince the unbeliever of the fear of death. Me, in other words. who has been there. Who knows YHWH. But you know you are a Christian. Tsk, tsk, Christian.

I am nobody. Everything I know, I know because I love my Gwynnies - a girl I never met - but when them fools of Babel tried to build a tower to god yet failed - I have succeeded. Through love. Silly. Big Grin

Wanna see a math trick? Iam4 (I have not come to change the science, I come to fulfill the science) Gotta love mathematics. 4500 years of scripture, I did in 4, right before your very eyes...

You know how your people do that door-to-door shit? Here's this guy, his church complex is like a quarter-mile down the road, end of my street, by the highway. Complex, I said. Comes with trainee, he does. Exposed as Sith by this Jedi, in front of his boy, he was.

Acceptance of the Holy Spirit means eternal life is now, I said.

We need to talk about hell, he said.

It was sad, really. Above are two simple sentences. In that sequence, Christianity is lost; all of it. All 2.4 billion sheep, two thousand year tradition; thirteen billion bucks of real value in the Vatican alone, all the theology, history. All. Gone.

Nobody even gives a shit. All the worlds a stage, the Christian says, and we are merely players. Wanna test some science? Find a fellow Christian to sacrifice; give him some hard questions, and listen for the halting state: We must trust in Jesus. It is all about Jesus. Jesus is Lord.

If it's my identity? If I were a Christian? I'd hafta ask myself, what went wrong?

I am self-proclaimed Lucifer, extant because my insane love of a movie star demanded expression; and you are the world's largest religion, thousands of years of tradition, libraries of theology, colleges, universities, hospitals, ministries.

All of it, is mine - if I actually gave a shit about that kinda thing - but where there is real-world, likely eternal science in scripture - you do not give a shit. You invest your faith in the Christian identity, it works good enough, you carry on. You put in your signature. You feed it to your children. You post it on billboards, pimp it on youtube. You assume it is yours, that you have the right.

When two years back, given unto me by the creator of the universe; the Kingdom of Hell is mine. Asshole.

And if you want proof of evil; I will tell you where I found evil, where it exist, festers, like a hideous boil. Where you can witness. Are you ready, Christian, to see the truth?

I did it 14 times; could not do it no morez, cause it was fucking nasty. Home experiment, Christian, can you deal? You gotta sacrifice one of your fellow sheep to see it, but I'm sure you know the type of Christian I'm talking about. Oh, and your faith, gotta be real deal. So you find this Christian, ya look him in the eye, ya sincerely declare:

I will burn in hell for you.

How did I come up with this whack shit? Because that's how much I love Gwyneth Paltrow. See, I remember being with creator of the universe, accepting title of prophet - I coulda been a contender! But, instead? I was given a choice. Love Gwyneth. Or everything else. When I chose Gwyneth, I was abandoned.

Now, however... I gotta ask you, you think you have some identity over there; you got all this action. I got obvious insanity. Are you going to get the question wrong?

Hilarious. Whatever you think is going on, I get to stick it to you on an atheist forum - you actually demanded it of me, telling me what I should fear. Epic rant, morally sound, not a twinge of arrogance, ego, religious nonsense - I used to get all that crap - and all this? You don't wanna risk, a minute alone in your brain; being wrong, with hell.

Nobody deserves that shit. NT full of duplicity, but with the Holy Spirit; there is no doctrine of hell in scripture. The gospels are fiction, marketing hell was part of the strategy; now there's a test anyone can preform - with faith - that evil exists in the soul of the Christian. If you hit a winner, the disgust will pour off of him or her from saying that line. Been in the joint, on the streets, all around - evil is defined, by the Christian; ain't your fault.

Is your fault, you don't fix it. All there is to it.
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#78
RE: Fear of death
(January 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: By the way my sentience is ever lasting, eternal, forever and ect. I will enjoy it especially on the other side.

Sure it is. The power of belief. Just make a wish and it is so. Oh wait, you have a book? A special book? Well then maybe it really is more than a wish. After all your wish is just like the wish of the people who wrote down the same wish in THE book. Of course that writing wasn't really their writing either because the holy ghost got inside them and held the pen. The words were penned by god by way of the men He possessed.

Let us pray. Oh God most mighty please possess us too. Make us zombies for christ. Oh use us as you will oh lord and master. Our only wish is to be your zombies forever, licking your boots when they become soiled and eating the brains of all who resist the zombiehood you have made available for the righteous. Amen.



Have a nice day, zombie.
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#79
RE: Fear of death
Is it just me or is houseofcantor Gary Busey?
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#80
RE: Fear of death
(January 2, 2012 at 3:10 am)Welsh cake Wrote:
(January 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: The first part of my statement was to show the hopelessness of non belief in God.
You should appreciate the futility of having any belief in a god or gods. You're going to die regardless. A cold fact of life I'm afraid.


Quote:The second part was to show that, after we are gone death has an effect on the ones that loved us and that is the part of death we should fear.
Explicitly, we're addressing whether we have any fear of our own death. Obviously, while we're alive now we can contemplate that family and loved ones are going to be grieving over our deaths. Our passing away has no doubt made their life a little colder, and little more unbearable than before. Thoughts of how they're going to survive without us and alone in the world brings us no comfort whatsoever, but we're not talking about regrets, we're discussing fear. Nearly everyone dies with regrets, Christians are no exception.


Quote:However as a christian I see a need for the non believer to have a fear of death.
Now you're just being a dick-head. I told you before just because you're afraid gives you no damn right to instil fear in others.


Quote:By the way my sentience is ever lasting, eternal, forever and ect. I will enjoy it especially on the other side.
I was going to humour you, but after that previous pompous statement and now this egoistical jerk off you just ejaculated here I thought, nah, fuck it. Listen up - death is final. That means you'll never know you once lived or died once you're dead. The afterlife you eagerly await will never come for this reason.

Says you, and you are not the finial word on this subject God is. Just because you can not believe does not in anyway prove there's no God or afterlife, nuff said about this.
(January 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(January 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: By the way my sentience is ever lasting, eternal, forever and ect. I will enjoy it especially on the other side.

Sure it is. The power of belief. Just make a wish and it is so. Oh wait, you have a book? A special book? Well then maybe it really is more than a wish. After all your wish is just like the wish of the people who wrote down the same wish in THE book. Of course that writing wasn't really their writing either because the holy ghost got inside them and held the pen. The words were penned by god by way of the men He possessed.

Let us pray. Oh God most mighty please possess us too. Make us zombies for christ. Oh use us as you will oh lord and master. Our only wish is to be your zombies forever, licking your boots when they become soiled and eating the brains of all who resist the zombiehood you have made available for the righteous. Amen.



Have a nice day, zombie.

What if God actually answers your prayer, what then?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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