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Stupid things religious people say
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(May 25, 2025 at 1:25 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Another Christian who was persecuted for his Christian values by Hollywood perverts has won his purity crusade.

Quote:Actor Who Lost It All After Christian Stance Rejoices: 'Give Glory to God'

Actor Neal McDonough is on a mission to live out his values in Hollywood.

Despite achieving widespread success in Hollywood, McDonough said it hasn’t always been easy, with the actor getting “beat up” for some of his stances.

One of the biggest reasons he made a media splash was for his longstanding policy of declining to kiss castmates, something that caught attention during his time on the TV show “Desperate Housewives.”

“I wouldn’t kiss a woman on that show years ago,” McDonough said. “And then I got blackballed.”

He continued, “I lost my house, and I lost everything — cars, you name it. I went bankrupt.”

McDonough said he ended up with a “massive drinking problem,” spending two years consuming alcohol to cope with not being able to land a job.

Despite those challenges, McDonough said he’s glad he stuck by his convictions. Ultimately, he had to decide what he’d do next – and he has since filtered those energies into making films that matter like “The Last Rodeo.” Eventually, his career came roaring back.

“It has come back tenfold,” McDonough said. “Now, I’m in the position where God has given me the gift of — Ruve and I are about to produce our eleventh production in four years. How does that happen? That wouldn’t have happened 10, 15 years ago. I had to be called really to my faith.”

A lot of this success hinged on some important questions about faith and belief, particularly in God’s goodness, love, and sovereignty. With the Lord, the actor believes anything is possible.

https://cbn.com/news/entertainment/actor...-glory-god

He didn't want to kiss a woman - what a hero.

Let me guess: he refuses to film kissing scenes but does murder scenes, which tells you everything about Christians.

'I'm not gonna kiss a woman, I'm gonna be a drunk instead, because muh principles.'
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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They believe he is the reincarnation of a god, Sathya Sai Baba, who died 14 years ago.



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Biola University’s Articles of Faith are pretty stupid.

Like: The Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are without error or misstatement in their moral and spiritual teaching and record of historical facts. They are without error or defect of any kind.

Or perhaps they are cleverly attracting new students by convincing them that everyone at Biola is on LSD when they believe that the book that endorses slavery and claims that God drowned the entire world, sparing one family on a boat with all of the animal species, is morally and historically correct.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Greek Politician Destroys Art in National Gallery, Claiming ‘Blasphemy’

Greece’s National Gallery was forced to close on Monday after a right-wing politician vandalized artworks he deemed to be blasphemous in an exhibition of contemporary Greek art. With the aid of an accomplice, the elected official allegedly targeted four paintings, which he forcibly removed from the wall and threw to the ground, shattering their protective glass of at least two works.

The damaged artworks, all by the same artist, Christoforos Katsadiotis, included three pieces from his “Icon” series and Saint Christopher (2020). The works are caricatures of religious icons.

Nikolaos Papadopoulos, a member of parliament in Greece, representing the far-right and ultra-conservative party Niki, which translates to “Victory,” has threatened to “take all legal actions” against the museum, which he alleges detained him illegally since the Greek constitution “provides that a Member of Parliament may not be prosecuted, imprisoned, or otherwise restricted without the permission of Parliament.”

Katsadiotis (the artist) explained that he is intrigued by the ambiguity and implicitly menacing nature of religion, represented by saints “who threaten that, if we’re not on their side, we will face all manner of trials and tribulations.” He added that religion “is the most kitsch element of our folk history—full of miracles, tragedies and curses, it is our modern mythology.”

After the attack, Papadopoulos defended his actions in a lengthy post on X titled “Government of Atheists and Antichrists.” The Greek politician revealed that he had written a letter to the museum’s director, Syrago Tsiara, asking that Katasadiotis’s works be removed.

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/greek-...ry-2617854
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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^'When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know", the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives.' - Robert Heinlein

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What the Fastest-Growing Christian Group Reveals About America

Catch the Fire belongs to the fastest-growing group of Christians on the planet—charismatic Christians, who believe that the Holy Spirit empowers them to speak in tongues, heal, and prophesy, just as Jesus’s first apostles did 2,000 years ago. By some measures, they represent more than half of the roughly 60 million U.S. adults who call themselves “born-again.” This flourishing and vigorously supernatural faith points to the paradox of the secular age: The modern era of declining church attendance has nurtured some of religion’s most dramatic manifestations. Instead of killing off religion, secularism has supercharged its extraordinary elements.

Charismatic Christians aren’t the only ones embracing a spirituality that might seem out of place in our modern, rationalist age. Eighty-seven percent of Americans subscribe to at least one New Age belief, such as karma, reincarnation, or telepathy. I also interviewed podcast bros who hawk ayahuasca in Silicon Valley and self-described spiritual coaches who offer treatments ranging from Reiki to reviewing their clients’ past lives.

At a New Age congregation outside Denver, I attended a healing workshop on harnessing the invisible energies of the universe to treat cancer and arthritis, as well as a shamanic drum circle where a former software engineer named Greg led participants on a journey to the spirit world to meet their power animals. If this is a “secular age,” then perhaps we need to rethink what secularization means.

Over the past decade, Donald Trump has drawn supporters into a story about America’s breakdown and recovery that is more spiritual than political. He is the president of an anti-institutional, tradition-skeptical, experience-worshipping age, when fewer Americans go to church but plenty of them follow gurus on YouTube. The feelings of frustration and grievance that a candidate personifies are more important than his policy platform.

His message that institutions are weak, corrupt, and deserve no loyalty; his tacit promise that you can imagine prosperity into existence regardless of what the economists say; his personal domination of the Republican Party: All of this has succeeded because public confidence in every institution, not just traditional churches, has collapsed. That cynicism extends to the workplace—the institution that makes the greatest stamp on most people’s daily life. Only 21 percent of U.S. employees strongly affirm trust in their organization’s leaders. Meanwhile, the social habits that we associate with a more devout, less tolerant age—policing boundaries, banishing heretics, expecting divine retribution to rain down on your enemies—have migrated from churches to politics. Many Americans are ready to put their faith in a political savior who says he was “saved by God.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...ty/682991/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(June 2, 2025 at 2:45 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Over the past decade, Donald Trump has drawn supporters into a story about America’s breakdown and recovery that is more spiritual than political. He is the president of an anti-institutional, tradition-skeptical, experience-worshipping age, when fewer Americans go to church but plenty of them follow gurus on YouTube. The feelings of frustration and grievance that a candidate personifies are more important than his policy platform.

His message that institutions are weak, corrupt, and deserve no loyalty; his tacit promise that you can imagine prosperity into existence regardless of what the economists say; his personal domination of the Republican Party: All of this has succeeded because public confidence in every institution, not just traditional churches, has collapsed. That cynicism extends to the workplace—the institution that makes the greatest stamp on most people’s daily life. Only 21 percent of U.S. employees strongly affirm trust in their organization’s leaders. Meanwhile, the social habits that we associate with a more devout, less tolerant age—policing boundaries, banishing heretics, expecting divine retribution to rain down on your enemies—have migrated from churches to politics. Many Americans are ready to put their faith in a political savior who says he was “saved by God.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...ty/682991/

My bolding above. And yet people turn to Donald Trump, of all people? He's the least likely to really help anyone since he's for an oligarchy rather than against one.

Too many Americans have simply refused to do their homework.
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200 miles of sublime pain on a Hindu pilgrimage in Pakistan

When Amar Faqira’s 3-year-old son abruptly lost movement in his foot last year, doctors offered little hope, and panic gripped his family.

Mr. Faqira made a vow. If his prayers were answered and the boy recovered, he would make a 200-mile pilgrimage through blistering plains and jagged terrain to the Hinglaj Devi temple, a site sacred to Hindus, a tiny minority in Pakistan.

The child regained strength a year later. And true to his word, Mr. Faqira set off in late April on a seven-day walk to the temple, which is nestled deep in the rust-colored mountains of Balochistan, a remote and restive province in Pakistan’s southwest.

The goddess “heard me and healed my son,” Mr. Faqira said before the trek, as he gathered with friends and family in his neighborhood in Karachi, a metropolis on the coast of the Arabian Sea. “Why shouldn’t I fulfill my vow and endure a little pain for her joy?”

With that sense of gratitude, Mr. Faqira and two companions, wearing saffron head scarves and carrying a ceremonial flag, joined thousands of others on the grueling journey to Hinglaj Devi, where Pakistan’s largest annual Hindu festival is held.

Along a winding highway and sun-scorched desert paths, groups of resolute pilgrims — mostly men but also women and children — trudged beneath the unforgiving sky, in heat that reached 113 degrees Fahrenheit, or 45 degrees Celsius. Some bore idols of the deity associated with the temple. All chanted “Jai Mata Di,” a call meaning “Hail the Mother Goddess.”

“The real pilgrimage is in the pain, the feeling,” Mr. Faqira, the devotee from Karachi, said on the fourth day of his trek. “You cannot find it in a vehicle.”

One of his two companions collapsed from heat exhaustion after walking nearly 70 miles and had to return home by bus. Mr. Faqira carried on, his feet blistered and bandaged.

Each pilgrim walks with a personal vow.

Minakshi, who goes by one name, was part of a group of women dressed in yellow and red. She undertook the journey to ask the goddess for a son after bearing three daughters. Holding her 8-month-old, with her mother-in-law by her side, she shielded the child from the dust and heat.

“I believe the goddess will hear me,” she said.

Nearby, 60-year-old Raj Kumari was making her seventh pilgrimage, praying for her grandson’s well-being. Also on the trek was a childless couple, married since 2018, who were hoping for divine intervention in starting a family.

Many pilgrims belong to marginalized lower-caste Hindu groups — landless sharecroppers or daily wage laborers. Those who can afford the $11 fare ride inside a bus. The poorest pay $5 to sit on the roof in the blistering sun.

According to Hindu mythology, the Hinglaj Devi temple is one of the sites where the remains of Sati, a goddess of marital devotion and longevity, fell to earth after her self-immolation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/world...-devi.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(June 2, 2025 at 2:45 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: What the Fastest-Growing Christian Group Reveals About America

Catch the Fire belongs to the fastest-growing group of Christians on the planet—charismatic Christians, who believe that the Holy Spirit empowers them to speak in tongues, heal, and prophesy, just as Jesus’s first apostles did 2,000 years ago. By some measures, they represent more than half of the roughly 60 million U.S. adults who call themselves “born-again.” This flourishing and vigorously supernatural faith points to the paradox of the secular age: The modern era of declining church attendance has nurtured some of religion’s most dramatic manifestations. Instead of killing off religion, secularism has supercharged its extraordinary elements.

Charismatic Christians aren’t the only ones embracing a spirituality that might seem out of place in our modern, rationalist age. Eighty-seven percent of Americans subscribe to at least one New Age belief, such as karma, reincarnation, or telepathy.  I also interviewed podcast bros who hawk ayahuasca in Silicon Valley and self-described spiritual coaches who offer treatments ranging from Reiki to reviewing their clients’ past lives.

At a New Age congregation outside Denver, I attended a healing workshop on harnessing the invisible energies of the universe to treat cancer and arthritis, as well as a shamanic drum circle where a former software engineer named Greg led participants on a journey to the spirit world to meet their power animals. If this is a “secular age,” then perhaps we need to rethink what secularization means.

Over the past decade, Donald Trump has drawn supporters into a story about America’s breakdown and recovery that is more spiritual than political. He is the president of an anti-institutional, tradition-skeptical, experience-worshipping age, when fewer Americans go to church but plenty of them follow gurus on YouTube. The feelings of frustration and grievance that a candidate personifies are more important than his policy platform.

His message that institutions are weak, corrupt, and deserve no loyalty; his tacit promise that you can imagine prosperity into existence regardless of what the economists say; his personal domination of the Republican Party: All of this has succeeded because public confidence in every institution, not just traditional churches, has collapsed. That cynicism extends to the workplace—the institution that makes the greatest stamp on most people’s daily life. Only 21 percent of U.S. employees strongly affirm trust in their organization’s leaders. Meanwhile, the social habits that we associate with a more devout, less tolerant age—policing boundaries, banishing heretics, expecting divine retribution to rain down on your enemies—have migrated from churches to politics. Many Americans are ready to put their faith in a political savior who says he was “saved by God.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...ty/682991/

They might be the fastest growing christian group in the US, but that is only because they are busy cannibalising their neighbour churches.  Christianity in the US is still cratering and there's no sign of it stopping.
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Hey guys, a miracle has happened that will make you rethink your atheism: a house was destroyed by a tornado, but the Bible inside was not.

Quote:Restoring Faith: Miracle Bible returned to owner amid tornado destruction

Amid all of the destruction and debris from the tornado that ripped through Laurel County, a Bible was found and returned to it’s owner, unharmed.

The Bible traveled across the interstate and was found in an former neighbors yard.

The Wyatt’s and Blanton’s home were both destroyed in the tornado, as both homes were right in the path of destruction.

Three days after the deadly storm, Mr. Blanton was cleaning up his yard when he found something that belonged to his old neighbors.

“It was wet, but there wasn’t a page torn out of it. That is what I love about it,” Mr. Blanton said. “And to see the destruction of the houses and everything tore up, and that Bible just being wet and unscathed. It’s a miracle. It’s a miracle that we are still here.”

Both families say they do not know God’s reasoning, but they are keeping their faith in Him.

https://www.wymt.com/2025/06/02/restorin...struction/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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