Posts: 32744
Threads: 1408
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 8:36 am
There are more than one would realize, and it is sickening.
The number of nurses, especially. (I work with them)
And doctors are not exempt either. I accompanied one patient to a veteran's appointment. The Asian doctor had biblical scripture on her wall.
SMDH.
Posts: 28260
Threads: 522
Joined: June 16, 2015
Reputation:
90
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 8:44 am
Beware the one's that ask you to pray with them before the procedure. They are the incompetents.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
Posts: 3283
Threads: 118
Joined: January 19, 2015
Reputation:
30
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 10:53 am
Since you work in the industry Kit, I'm sure you're aware there is a chronic shortage of physicians in the US. Some states are allowing nurse-practitioners to perform some of the functions normally done by a physician to free some of their time. We can't afford to be too picky.
It really is scary though when a physician doesn't believe in evolution. I wouldn't take my car to a mechanic who didn't believe in spark plugs. This is in the same league and he/she is responsible for fixing ME rather than my car.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
Posts: 69247
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
259
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 10:55 am
They can believe whatever the fuck they want as long as they do their jobs. When they start saying "I'd give you an antibiotic but it is god's will if you live or die" that's when it is time to call the Medical Ethics board and the press!
Posts: 4435
Threads: 13
Joined: September 27, 2018
Reputation:
17
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 5:37 pm
Anyone who thinks a religious person can't be a good doctor or nurse is ignorant of history, and probably a bigot.
Posts: 549
Threads: 3
Joined: May 28, 2017
Reputation:
42
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 5:53 pm
(November 10, 2018 at 8:36 am)Kit Wrote: There are more than one would realize, and it is sickening.
The number of nurses, especially. (I work with them)
And doctors are not exempt either. I accompanied one patient to a veteran's appointment. The Asian doctor had biblical scripture on her wall.
SMDH.
I have a doctor who had an overwhelming amount of biblical crap in his office. Some of it was displayed alongside his credentials from MIT in mathematics and Harvard medical school and a third degree that I can't recall.
When he demonstrated that he possessed the skill to cure my ailment, I readily forgave the religious shit.
Posts: 28260
Threads: 522
Joined: June 16, 2015
Reputation:
90
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 6:08 pm
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
Posts: 4435
Threads: 13
Joined: September 27, 2018
Reputation:
17
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 6:32 pm
I've known two Christian doctors and one nurse here in Japan.
The first religious doctor I met converted to Christianity after his city got nuked. He was young and his family had been burned up, and he wanted the spiritual support that the church gave him. He founded a hospital, took a tiny salary, and lived in a 4-mat room on the top floor. He developed some of the first techniques for doing endoscopic examinations of the stomach.
The second doctor came from a Christian family in Nagasaki, which has a minority Christian neighborhood (it was basically ground zero for the bomb there). After the war he founded a group called Physicians against Nuclear Weapons and was active in peace movements around the world.
The nurse volunteered in a poor part of Brazil after she graduated from school. She was so impressed by the dedication of the Christian volunteers she met that she converted while she was there. After coming back to Japan she continues to work with the most difficult and unrewarding patients.
Posts: 28260
Threads: 522
Joined: June 16, 2015
Reputation:
90
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 6:34 pm
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2018 at 6:39 pm by brewer.)
(November 10, 2018 at 5:37 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Anyone who thinks a religious person can't be a good doctor or nurse is ignorant of history, and probably a bigot.
We're not talking about history, we're talking about current healthcare. Religions objections allow for refusal of treatment. A medical professionals ability to refuse treatment for any condition that causes a risk/harm to the patient should not be allowed in medicine.
Should we talk about LGBT treatment refusals, maybe refusals in reproductive emergency medicine?
Exactly who are the bigots?
(November 10, 2018 at 6:32 pm)Belaqua Wrote: I've known two Christian doctors and one nurse here in Japan.
The first religious doctor I met converted to Christianity after his city got nuked. He was young and his family had been burned up, and he wanted the spiritual support that the church gave him. He founded a hospital, took a tiny salary, and lived in a 4-mat room on the top floor. He developed some of the first techniques for doing endoscopic examinations of the stomach.
The second doctor came from a Christian family in Nagasaki, which has a minority Christian neighborhood (it was basically ground zero for the bomb there). After the war he founded a group called Physicians against Nuclear Weapons and was active in peace movements around the world.
The nurse volunteered in a poor part of Brazil after she graduated from school. She was so impressed by the dedication of the Christian volunteers she met that she converted while she was there. After coming back to Japan she continues to work with the most difficult and unrewarding patients.
Let me tell you about this one christian, in band camp, ...............blah, blah, blah. I can give you stories of practitioners that place medicine first, religion something less than first. That is what medicine should be. Caring for the patient no matter the religious belief(s), practitioner or patient.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
Posts: 549
Threads: 3
Joined: May 28, 2017
Reputation:
42
RE: Religious people in the medical field
November 10, 2018 at 7:47 pm
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2018 at 7:48 pm by Aliza.)
(November 10, 2018 at 6:34 pm)wyzas Wrote: (November 10, 2018 at 5:37 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Anyone who thinks a religious person can't be a good doctor or nurse is ignorant of history, and probably a bigot.
We're not talking about history, we're talking about current healthcare. Religions objections allow for refusal of treatment. A medical professionals ability to refuse treatment for any condition that causes a risk/harm to the patient should not be allowed in medicine.
Should we talk about LGBT treatment refusals, maybe refusals in reproductive emergency medicine?
Exactly who are the bigots?
(November 10, 2018 at 6:32 pm)Belaqua Wrote: I've known two Christian doctors and one nurse here in Japan.
The first religious doctor I met converted to Christianity after his city got nuked. He was young and his family had been burned up, and he wanted the spiritual support that the church gave him. He founded a hospital, took a tiny salary, and lived in a 4-mat room on the top floor. He developed some of the first techniques for doing endoscopic examinations of the stomach.
The second doctor came from a Christian family in Nagasaki, which has a minority Christian neighborhood (it was basically ground zero for the bomb there). After the war he founded a group called Physicians against Nuclear Weapons and was active in peace movements around the world.
The nurse volunteered in a poor part of Brazil after she graduated from school. She was so impressed by the dedication of the Christian volunteers she met that she converted while she was there. After coming back to Japan she continues to work with the most difficult and unrewarding patients.
Let me tell you about this one christian, in band camp, ...............blah, blah, blah. I can give you stories of practitioners that place medicine first, religion something less than first. That is what medicine should be. Caring for the patient no matter the religious belief(s), practitioner or patient.
If a religious doctor refuses to provide treatment on the grounds of religious convictions, then that doctor should in no short order become your former doctor. If a doctor simply believes Jesus died on the cross to save you from your sins (or whatever it is Christians believe) and they want to deck their office out with things that make them feel comfortable, and this doctor can also cure cancer or remove a brain tumor, then I say pick and choose your battles.
|