(January 10, 2012 at 9:44 am)Tiberius Wrote: Why aren't more people talking about the inherent dangers of doing stupid things like this? Why doesn't the media grow some balls and point out the stupidity, as well as explaining the proper course of action one should take when they drop something onto the tracks? In fact, forget the media, why aren't the police doing this???

Because they buried her in this shirt and called it good.

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... crap, I think that's my mother-in-law ... fuck it I'm chucking this thing! O shit, that was my gyno with my answer about those crabs ... I think I can reach it if I just hop down .... and stretch ... almost ....

(January 10, 2012 at 12:24 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: I still don't get what you are saying here. Some people are morons, there we need to put signs everywhere not to do moronic stuff?

That is as silly as the "Don't dry your cat in the microwave" label. No matter how idiotproof you make anything, there will always be dumber idiots.

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Funny as it may seem, how many people put their cats in a microwave.

People jumping onto train tracks for stupid reasons does happen on the other hand. So I do think Tiberius has a point in bringing this up.

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(January 10, 2012 at 1:10 pm)Chuck Wrote: Of course it's an accident. The outcome is by no means overwhelmingly probable, and the participant in question did not undertake the action in question in an attempt to cause the relatively improbable outcome to eventuate. This is the definition of "accident". Accident has nothing to do with rules, or any evaluation of risk and reward that would meet with your approval.

Name me another type of "accident"

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/accident

"An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm"

Explain how when you jump onto a train track, getting hit by a train is somehow, 'unexpected'.

(January 10, 2012 at 11:01 am)Tiberius Wrote: Also, the woman had a kid. To be honest, I'd rather have an idiot mother who was alive and well than one who got herself killed trying to rescue her phone...natural selection be damned.

Could've been worse.

She could've sent the kid to fetch it.

(January 10, 2012 at 2:01 pm)Napo Wrote: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/accident

"An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm"

Explain how when you jump onto a train track, getting hit by a train is somehow, 'unexpected'.

Because suddenly jumping up onto a live train track to get a phone (the decision) is unexpected?

Seriously, do I have to spell it out for you?


The fact that this event is unpredictable makes it qualify for 'unexpected'.

(January 10, 2012 at 2:53 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Because suddenly jumping up onto a live train track to get a phone (the decision) is unexpected?

Seriously, do I have to spell it out for you?


The fact that this event is unpredictable makes it qualify for 'unexpected'.

How the fuck is it unpredictable? Are you mad? If I was standing at a train station and saw someone jump onto the train track, who then proceeded to be flattened by a train, I wouldn't be sitting there afterwards thinking "Duh, well I didn't see that one coming".

NOBODY EXPECTS THE JUMPER!

Not as effective as the Spanish Inquisition.

You're not expecting the woman to jump.

Look, I'm not saying she wasn't stupid, but if she's like me then pretty much her whole life is on that phone. I would have called a security guard or someone to help me get it off the track, but she might have just panicked. That's why I'm saying there should be signs stating where you can get help. That's all.

(January 10, 2012 at 2:01 pm)Napo Wrote: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/accident

"An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm"

Explain how when you jump onto a train track, getting hit by a train is somehow, 'unexpected'.

What is the probability of being hit by a train for each random act of "jumpting onto the track"? 100%? Are you insane? 50/50? Which track carries a train 50% of the time? You have to admit the chance of being hit by a train during a short sojourn on a track required to retrieve a phone is actually rather low, as for as fraction out of unity goes.

So I don't think she expected to be hit by a train, the odds were not that she would be hit by a train, the odds of her being hit be a train might be higher than you are comfortable with, but it most certainly is not the expected outcome as far as statistics goes.

For fucks sake I hate being retarded. Yes Moros I get you, but I don't think the decision should be what ascertains to calling it an accident.

Quote:her whole life is on that phone.

The thing is a half-inch wide cell phone is likely to have the train pass right over it with no damage. Once the train goes by THEN you pick it up.

(January 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm)Chuck Wrote:

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What is the probability of being hit by a train for each random act of "jumpting onto the track"? 100%? Are you insane? 50/50? Which track carries a train 50% of the time? You have to admit the chance of being hit by a train during a short sojourn on a track required to retrieve a phone is actually rather low, as for as fraction out of unity goes.

So I don't think she expected to be hit by a train, the odds were not that she would be hit by a train, the odds of her being hit be a train might be higher than you are comfortable with, but it most certainly is not the expected outcome as far as statistics goes.

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I actually couldn't give a flying fuck. Jumping onto a train track and getting whacked by a train is not unexpected don't care how you want to argue. Same as jumping out onto a road and getting hit by a car isn't 'unexpected'.