http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

Quote:During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700 claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebecks. This history documented McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of this hazard.

Quote:Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager testified that the company actively enforces a requirement that coffee be held in the pot at 185 degrees, plus or minus five degrees. He also testified that a burn hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above, and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing the "holding temperature" of its coffee.

Plaintiffs' expert, a scholar in thermodynamics applied to human skin burns, testified that liquids, at 180 degrees, will cause a full thickness burn to human skin in two to seven seconds. Other testimony showed that as the temperature decreases toward 155 degrees, the extent of the burn relative to that temperature decreases exponentially. Thus, if Liebeck's spill had involved coffee at 155 degrees, the liquid would have cooled and given her time to avoid a serious burn.

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I just can't feel sorry for her. My life is on my phone too, but I just don't feel sorry for her.

I've dropped my phone into a toilet before. The odds of me dying by reaching in for my phone were billions to one ... you know what, I still didn't do it.
My health is more valuable to me than reaching into a bacteria-ridden feces container. You can imagine how I would feel about doing something where my life really was at a much higher risk. How stupid can you possibly be. It's a fucking phone ... it could very easily be stolen the day after you risked your life for it. Idiot.

She was stupid, now she's dead. One less open-mouth breather in the world. Hopefully, she was a fundy and we're all better off for it.


ps. Did she at least toss someone her phone before she got pancaked??? Wouldn't want her precious list of contacts to go to waste.

(January 10, 2012 at 10:17 pm)Cinjin Wrote: I just can't feel sorry for her. My life is on my phone too, but I just don't feel sorry for her.

I've dropped my phone into a toilet before. The odds of me dying by reaching in for my phone were billions to one ... you know what, I still didn't do it.
My health is more valuable to me than reaching into a bacteria-ridden feces container. You can imagine how I would feel about doing something where my life really was at a much higher risk. How stupid can you possibly be. It's a fucking phone ... it could very easily be stolen the day after you risked your life for it. Idiot.

She was stupid, now she's dead. One less open-mouth breather in the world. Hopefully, she was a fundy and we're all better off for it.


ps. Did she at least toss someone her phone before she got pancaked??? Wouldn't want her precious list of contacts to go to waste.

You don't have to be sorry, you don't have to admit it like it were a bad thing. But in my opinion, one should not say that she somewhat had it coming, perhaps, or paid the price for her stupidity.
People make mistakes in their lives..Obviously, she made a huge mistake.
But taking your phone out of the toilet certainly wouldn't have killed you, but I'm not sure if your phone would have survived the drowning process.
Even if it's riddled with bacteria.

(January 10, 2012 at 10:17 pm)Cinjin Wrote: I just can't feel sorry for her. My life is on my phone too, but I just don't feel sorry for her.

I've dropped my phone into a toilet before. The odds of me dying by reaching in for my phone were billions to one ... you know what, I still didn't do it.
My health is more valuable to me than reaching into a bacteria-ridden feces container. You can imagine how I would feel about doing something where my life really was at a much higher risk. How stupid can you possibly be. It's a fucking phone ... it could very easily be stolen the day after you risked your life for it. Idiot.

She was stupid, now she's dead. One less open-mouth breather in the world. Hopefully, she was a fundy and we're all better off for it.


ps. Did she at least toss someone her phone before she got pancaked??? Wouldn't want her precious list of contacts to go to waste.

I'm fairly certain a careful observer can look at your behavior and identify risks where you'll end up dead for casual and even habitual behavior.

Perhaps something as mundane as forgetting to silence your cell phone and grabbing at it in the car, oblivious to the road momentarily.

But in this world, moments are all the difference between alive and dead.

You are free to vent your hatred of others, but don't be surprised when others point out that the enemy is inside you as well.

Well, my four-penn'orth (for what it's worth) is that deep down, past the layers of sophistication in which we clothe ourselves, humans are still animals and will behave with animal instincts at times; probably more times than any of us would feel comfortable admitting. Like everyone else I don't know enough about the woman in the news article to pass opinion on her mental state or cognitive abilities. I am, however, aware that like most species we tend not to accept the prospect of our own imminent demise.

How many times have we seen the buxom, swimsuited teen in a horror flick just stand there watching while the deformed maniac raises his axe over her head, and we in the audience are thinking "look, just kick him in the bollocks and feckin' leg it, he's got a feckin' axe"? Script necessity is only part of it; it also has something to do with the thought that this can't be happening to me. Same reason for why rabbits freeze in the road and get turned into Frisbees - it's not happening. It seems to be one of those instincts that we haven't had time to evolve out of the species, if it's even possible to do so. Improper attribution of Darwin Awards notwithstanding.

what if I feel the sudden urge to put my tiny pee pee on the rail?

Hope it isn't freezing....you wouldn't want it to get stuck.

(January 11, 2012 at 7:34 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: what if I feel the sudden urge to put my tiny pee pee on the rail?

Wouldn't that be a terrible 'accident' waiting to happen?

(January 11, 2012 at 7:34 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: what if I feel the sudden urge to put my tiny pee pee on the rail?

What if it derails the train? Think of the victims!

(January 11, 2012 at 7:34 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: what if I feel the sudden urge to put my tiny pee pee on the rail?

What, lengthways you mean? Only way it'd work for me.