Hey AF.

I was browsing through a couple of the recent threads here, but I didn't find one that I thought was dedicated specifically to the discussion of Christians themselves. I'd like to hear your responses to two questions:

1. Would you please define for me what you understand a Christian to be?
2. Would you please tell me your understanding of how one becomes a Christian?

Though these responses are understandable:
1) An ignorant, hypocritical bigot who doesn't know his right hand from his left and
2) repeated blows to the head with a frying pan,

brief responses that might stimulate deeper discussions are always encouraged. Someone who came from a christian background might have something that I'm looking for. e.g.

1) Someone who has life in Christ, someone who believes in Jesus, etc.
2) Belief in Jesus Christ, baptism, etc.

1) A follower of Jesus Christ.
2) You follow Jesus Christ's teachings, that is all.


You don't have to be christened, baptised or any of that stuff, that's my take anyway, i think that's more to do with joining a Jesus cult like Southern Baptist, being a member of a 'special' Jesus fan club.

(January 20, 2012 at 4:52 am)riverthought Wrote: 1. Would you please define for me what you understand a Christian to be?
2. Would you please tell me your understanding of how one becomes a Christian?

1. The only thing Christians have in common is that they all believe various versions of unsupported tales of a Jewish troublemaker called Jesus (a very common name back then) who either was or was not executed for his crimes. Quite a lot of them believe that he was the son of God but that is by no means a universal belief amongst Christians - although the uneducated ones think that it is.

2. That is not as simple a question as it first appears. There are hundreds of flavours of Christian, few of which go well together. Each flavour thinks they understand God better than all the rest. To confuse matters further, we have the new-age Christians who think that they have a 'personal relationship with God'' but that is just so that they can justify disagreeing with every other human.

The prime teaching of Jesus, concentrated in the 'Sermon on the mount' was to love one another, to treat them as you would wish to be treated and to turn the other cheek is someone attacks you. Rather than follow that prime teaching, many of those devout Christians flavours were slaughtered by other devout Christians flavours because simply they believed something slightly different.

Mainstream Christianity got kick started by Constantine when he ordered the bible to be written at the first synod at Nicea. The majority of current Christians will claim that the bible is at the heart of their faith and if you do not accept the bible as the inspired word of God (most accept there are errors in it though) and that God the father, son and holy Ghost are Consubstantial - then you are not a Christian. However, that is not accepted by plenty of other flavours with more aquired testes such as Arians, Cathars, Jehovah's Witnesses and various other non-trinitarian flavours.

So, if you want to become a Christian, just say that you are one, you can make up the rest as you go along and argue about it with everyone in the world if you come up with enough strange ideas. Does that answer your question?

A foolish child who has not the wit to think for themselves?

This is a mental health condition known as Autism

(January 20, 2012 at 5:53 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: This is a mental health condition known as Autism

My girlfriend works with autistic children daily & that is not autism.

(January 20, 2012 at 7:32 am)Jaysyn Wrote:

(January 20, 2012 at 5:53 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: This is a mental health condition known as Autism

My girlfriend works with autistic children daily & that is not autism.

My son is Autistic and this is the current definition of the government bodies giving assistance.

Sorry Jaysyn... personal pet peeve with the gov here in Oz

(January 20, 2012 at 5:52 am)Aardverk Wrote: However, that is not accepted by plenty of other flavours with more aquired testes such as Arians, Cathars, Jehovah's Witnesses and various other non-trinitarian flavours.

As opposed to less acquired testes?

(January 20, 2012 at 9:21 am)Faith No More Wrote:

(January 20, 2012 at 5:52 am)Aardverk Wrote: However, that is not accepted by plenty of other flavours with more aquired testes such as Arians, Cathars, Jehovah's Witnesses and various other non-trinitarian flavours.

As opposed to less acquired testes?

I just burst out laughing in the middle of the library... everyone is looking at me.

Christians are mischief makers who worship a 3 in 1 god. They become Christian by... uh.. winning the birth lottery of doom.

(January 20, 2012 at 5:52 am)Aardverk Wrote: As opposed to less acquired testes?

Ship! Oiled by my smell chicken a grain. Damn Microsoft!

It's just a long way of saying that it's a load of bollocks.