(February 14, 2012 at 1:11 am)Bgood Wrote: Well, Rev it looks like you are the great shephard leading his flock of atheist sheep..........BAAAH BAAAH BAAAH!! OOooHHH,.... that's how atheism is a religion!

Bullshit. I never supported Ron Paul to begin with. There's just too many questions (which he refuses to adequately answer) regarding all those racist newsletters with his name on them, and the fact that he doesn't seem to understand the wall of separation of church & state. Not least the fact that he's extremely unlikely to win the Republican nomination, and I'm unlikely to vote for a Republican anyway. I'm not basing my support or lack of support on what one poster on this forum says. But the things that Rev illustrated just shows why no sane person should support Ron Paul.

If you want war with Iran/Syria and possible China/Russia vote for Obama Mitt Santourm, or Gingrich. This will effect all of us. Not just the people in the US.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-13...-safe.html

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012/02/08/65599235.html

http://keatingsdesk.wordpress.com/2011/0...ntil-2024/

http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/02/iran-e...-together/

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread746893/pg1

Israel is conducting false flags. If you don't want war, there is only one choice(hopefully).

Israel probably did/planned/helped 9/11 go research it yourself.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLE...aelis.html
http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot...oving.html

Quote:Cosmic Ape wrote:

You have some nerve calling us sheep, how the fuck can you call us sheep when we can back up our opinions with evidence and you believe in mythology and the supernatural based on primitive people with limited knowledge of reality...clown shoes.

When a group of people believe in the same thing, they are sheeplike. Ron Paul's fans are sheep too, just like you! Everyone is a sheep. No one is an individual who stands completely all alone.

Plus you back your all of your CYNICAL OPINIONS with shitty, completely biased and prejudiced evidence. I would not even call what is posted here against Ron Paul as legitimite evidence. I call it MEDIA SPIN, Left Wing Propaganda, and Mudslinging when Paul's ideas are taken out of context and put into your VERY SMALL frame of mind. You are prejudiced. You lie and only look at the negative media on Paul. The establishment hates Paul, they are afraid of him, so of course he is going to be either ignored or slandered by mainstream media. As far as my belief in "the supernatural based on primitive people", that actually sounds kind of rascist to me more than anything. OOhh, primitive Africans or Asians could not possibly be smarter than spoiled White kids who throw a hissy fit because the word 'God' is in the Pledge of Alliegence. It is your very snobbishness and self righteousness in your CONSTANTLY NEGATIVE BIASED judgements that ironically make you all look worse than some the most unattractive Christian fundamentalists.
You think you know it all because of your "research". Did you ever think that maybe, JUST MAYBE, your research methods and analysis are flawed in themselves. You see what you want to see, which is cynicism and nihilism, and close your eyes to deeper truth. You can only see fragments, never the bigger perspective. And that's really too bad.

No, a sheep is someone who always just blindly follows a leader and never thinks for him/herself. I don't think you'll find many sheep here.

(February 14, 2012 at 6:27 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: No, a sheep is someone who always just blindly follows a leader and never thinks for him/herself. I don't think you'll find many sheep here.

This^

It's a non sequitur to call an Atheist a sheep in that sense when an Atheist doesnt follow anything and there is no dogma, it's the belief of rejection in god claims not the conformity of refusing a god.

You're being ridiculous, bgood.

(February 14, 2012 at 6:27 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: No, a sheep is someone who always just blindly follows a leader and never thinks for him/herself. I don't think you'll find many sheep here.

Haha! That's a good laugh! So ALL leaders, no matter WHO they are, are inherently bad then because they restrict people from thinking independently? Is that what you are saying?

And just because 'you don't believe in God' does not automatically exclude you from being a sheep in some way, shape or form. Maybe you are a sheep at work, you are a sheep in your politics, in traffic, in the grocery store, in your marriage/relationship, and when you conform to any of society's norms, you are a sheep. I have already found many sheep on this site. Actually, myself, as a Buddhist, is probably one of the most individualistic thinkers on this site compared to the cancerous tumor of pessimists and atheists who plague this site with trite reductionist critque for a cheap laugh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple

It is not exclusive to religious beliefs.

"The term is used to describe those who voluntarily acquiesce to a suggestion without critical analysis or research."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQqq3e03EBQ

No that's not what he was saying, 'blindly' would be a key word there, 'never thinking for him/herself'... THAT'S the point. "All leader's are bad...", that's a ridiculous straw man.

Accepting one of society's norms doesn't make you a sheep. Conforming to it because it's one of society's norms would. But sometimes it's just a good idea? I don't want a road full of individuals who go their own way and make their own rules thank you very much. A freethinking individual can come to the same conclusion, they would just get there by a different route.

Cancerous tumor?

I'm with you on the point against Cosmic Ape, how being an atheist doesn't exclude one from being a sheep.

(February 14, 2012 at 6:56 pm)Bgood Wrote: ..and when you conform to any of society's norms, you are a sheep. I have already found many sheep on this site. Actually, myself, as a Buddhist, is probably one of the most individualistic thinkers on this site compared to the cancerous tumor of pessimists and atheists who plague this site with trite reductionist critque for a cheap laugh.

Gee, he makes a good point here. If we want to avoid the label of sheep we really had better get in line and follow this buddhaboy. That way we could be much more individualistic in our thinking just like him. He's the one we should follow if we really want to be non-conforming.

I wonder what it feels like to be this full of your self? Does the light emanating from your own eyes blind you when you shave?

(February 14, 2012 at 8:10 pm)whateverist Wrote: He's the one we should follow if we really want to be non-conforming.

I wonder what it feels like to be this full of your self? Does the light emanating from your own eyes blind you when you shave?

Why do you want to be non-conforming? Is that the main reason you are an atheist, is to be non-conforming? That's weak.

Light does not emanate from me, but everyday I am becoming much more enlightened. You will never be enlightened, nor holy, nor worthy of much respect. Do you know why? Because no one would ever percieve you that way. You are already dead. You have nothing new. I know you. I know how you are going to react. You are predictable. You are a sheep. From my higher vantage point, looking down on your pettiness, I feel some pity, but mostly disdain. You do not enlighten, you only whine and complain. But don't worry, you are not alone, you are not original.

You see, I have attained "buddha-mind", while you have attained nothing but a CONFORMIST education........at best.