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Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:15 am
Miami Herald: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/28/26...k=misearch
Quote:Charges in burning of 3,500-year-old Fla tree
LONGWOOD, Fla. -- Authorities say a central Florida woman is in jail, charged with setting a fire that burned one of the world's oldest cypress trees.
Investigators say two witnesses identified 26-year-old Sara Barnes as the person who caused the 118-foot-tall bald cypress tree named "The Senator" to burn and collapse Jan. 16.
The Seminole County parks department says ring samples showed the tree was roughly 3,500 years old.
The Orlando Sentinel ( http://thesent.nl/yidEHC) reports that Barnes also took photos of the fire with her cellphone. The Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement searched Barnes' Winter Park home Tuesday and confiscated her cellphone and laptop. Authorities also reported finding methamphetamine, scales and drug paraphernalia. Barnes told investigators she set the fire while trying to use illegal drugs.
If people get jailed, fined, or even executed for abusing and/or killing other people, or animals, then why not for abusing and/or killing trees and other flora too? Those are also living organisms, are they not?
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:16 am
She should be shot. But I'm biased.
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:16 am
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2012 at 11:18 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You have to be fucking kidding me.....she burnt down The Senator... 
(or burnt, eh Summer...i jest, i jest. I say they put up a plaque with her name on it and a description of the events that occurred, right where the tree stood, something sturdy that will be there long after she's gone.)
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:21 am
A tree was murdered by Jesus because it was following the law his daddy made (only bear fruit in season). Because he was hungry and had some powerfully bad halitosis (breath so bad it could kill a horse) he spoke to the tree, breathed his stinky halitosis on it, and watched it wither and die.
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:22 am
(March 1, 2012 at 11:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: You have to be fucking kidding me.....she burnt down The Senator...
(or burnt, eh Summer...i jest, i jest. I say they put up a plaque with her name on it and a description of the events that occurred, right where the tree stood, something sturdy that will be there long after she's gone.)
I like that Rhythm ... something that'll last 3500 years.
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:23 am
That tree was older than Jesus. Fire is too good for her.
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:23 am
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2012 at 11:23 am by NoMoreFaith.)
In cases like that, a 3500 year old tree, certainly warrants harsh punishment, it can never be called murder.
Murder has a lot of definitions, but once you start defining murder as killing anything with living cells, it starts getting absurd.
It has to have at least sentience in my opinion to be reliably called murder.
Still unbelievably disgusting and I hope the penalty is severe all the same.
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:23 am
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:23 am
(March 1, 2012 at 11:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: something sturdy that will be there long after she's gone.
Sturdier than a 3,500 year old tree? What would you suggest, aside from a Gizeh-like pyramid?
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RE: Can a tree be murdered?
March 1, 2012 at 11:26 am
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Solid concrete, short and wide with an anvil shaped foundation buried into the sand about 4 times larger below ground than above, no metal re-enforcement, deep wide lettering with little flourish, dusted with a liberal amount of quartz. It doesn't have to last longer than the tree, just longer than her.
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