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Forsaken · (This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 4:15 pm by Forsaken.)

(March 5, 2012 at 6:18 am)chipan Wrote: Did you not read it? It explains the passage. I'll just quote myself off another thread.

As I clearly mentioned, what is YOUR evidence.

chi pan · (This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 10:52 pm by chi pan.)

(March 5, 2012 at 4:15 pm)Forsaken Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 6:18 am)chipan Wrote: Did you not read it? It explains the passage. I'll just quote myself off another thread.

As I clearly mentioned, what is YOUR evidence.

That was my evidence. I clearly explained what the passage by looking at the context and several other passages that state mosaic law.

(March 5, 2012 at 12:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 1:12 am)chipan Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 12:24 am)Rhythm Wrote: Fairy tale.

Got any evidence?

The question minimalist asked was not about evidence, it was about the story.

No, the question was why didn't your fucking god kill Jeptha for frying his daughter which, and I really hate to break this to you, is what he did...if the story had happened at all, which it didn't, of course.

Again we see the apologetic mind which is capable of infinite self-delusion.

Jeptha vows to fry whatever comes out his door.

His daughter comes out the door.

He gives her two months to go run in the hills and then,

Quote:After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.
There is no other "vow" in the story, son.

I really want to make this clear. Just because YOU make up some lame excuse for the plain language of your barbaric stories does not mean that normal people are going to be fooled by it. You are far too deeply invested in this holy horseshit. You need to get a life and find out why you are so fucking gullible.

Did you not read it? It may not be clear from your perspective, but you must put it into their perspective to understand it. Like I said, the vow was not about human sacrifice for several reasons that I listed. And let it be noted that at the end of the passage it said "and she knew no man." if she was sacrificed it would say "and she died" or close to it. Read my post and the link. You can't read this story piece by piece.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 11:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

What is your evidence for your appraisal of their perspective? Sounds to me like you're making excuses from your perspective.

chi pan · March 5, 2012 at 11:03 pm

(March 5, 2012 at 11:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What is your evidence for your appraisal of their perspective? Sounds to me like you're making excuses from your perspective.

No, I'm explaining that the story is not about human sacrifice for several reasons. I listed all those reasons. If you want to critique them individually, go ahead.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 11:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

I understand that you have tried to excuse your fairy tale by any way except the most obvious (that it is a fairy tale). However, I don't think you actually understand what a human sacrifice is to begin with, and I fail to see that you've demonstrated anything except that you have a fertile imagination. In a word....

Evidence?

chi pan · March 5, 2012 at 11:15 pm

(March 5, 2012 at 11:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I understand that you have tried to excuse your fairy tale by any way except the most obvious (that it is a fairy tale). However, I don't think you actually understand what a human sacrifice is to begin with, and I fail to see that you've demonstrated anything except that you have a fertile imagination. In a word....

Evidence?

If you are not willing to prove me wrong then my point stands.

**Minimalist** · March 5, 2012 at 11:17 pm

Quote:Did you not read it?

YES I FUCKING READ IT

He's an apologist too...just like you. He's making excuses for his bullshit just like you are.

You are both blind because you oh-so-desperately want to believe that your fucking god is not just one more iron-age barbaric monstrosity.

You ( and he) are FUCKING WRONG. I do not need some apologetic asshole to explain the words to me. I can read them myself. You, obviously, cannot.

Now do you fucking get it?

This is simple shit....simple enough even for you. Jeptha makes a vow and keeps his vow. Figure it out.

chi pan · March 5, 2012 at 11:21 pm

(March 5, 2012 at 11:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Did you not read it?

YES I FUCKING READ IT

He's an apologist too...just like you. He's making excuses for his bullshit just like you are.

You are both blind because you oh-so-desperately want to believe that your fucking god is not just one more iron-age barbaric monstrosity.

You ( and he) are FUCKING WRONG. I do not need some apologetic asshole to explain the words to me. I can read them myself. You, obviously, cannot.

Now do you fucking get it?

This is simple shit....simple enough even for you. Jeptha makes a vow and keeps his vow. Figure it out.

It's not that simple. You take things out of context. You cannot read the beginning and the end to figure out the story.

**Minimalist** · March 5, 2012 at 11:23 pm

I don't think you know what "context" means.

If you did, you would not try to shoehorn the beliefs of ignorant iron-age goat herders into modern life.

Wake up. The coffee is brewing.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 11:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

(March 5, 2012 at 11:15 pm)chipan Wrote: If you are not willing to prove me wrong then my point stands.

I have no responsibility to prove you wrong, you must prove yourself right. You have to make your own case on something someday Chip. "I said it so it stands" is the way a child argues.

Evidence?
(you could demonstrate, just as one example, that this actually occurred, or you could demonstrate that you are presenting a perspective that is theirs, and not your own. Anthropologists do this all the time, but we all know how much you hate actual science..so I;m not holding my breath)

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