RE: Psalm 137:9
March 5, 2012 at 4:15 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 4:15 pm by Forsaken.)
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Psalm 137:9
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RE: Psalm 137:9
March 5, 2012 at 10:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 10:52 pm by chi pan.)
(March 5, 2012 at 4:15 pm)Forsaken Wrote:(March 5, 2012 at 6:18 am)chipan Wrote: Did you not read it? It explains the passage. I'll just quote myself off another thread. That was my evidence. I clearly explained what the passage by looking at the context and several other passages that state mosaic law. (March 5, 2012 at 12:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(March 5, 2012 at 1:12 am)chipan Wrote:(March 5, 2012 at 12:24 am)Rhythm Wrote: Fairy tale. Did you not read it? It may not be clear from your perspective, but you must put it into their perspective to understand it. Like I said, the vow was not about human sacrifice for several reasons that I listed. And let it be noted that at the end of the passage it said "and she knew no man." if she was sacrificed it would say "and she died" or close to it. Read my post and the link. You can't read this story piece by piece.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto: "In God is our trust." And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! -4th verse of the american national anthem RE: Psalm 137:9
March 5, 2012 at 11:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 11:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
What is your evidence for your appraisal of their perspective? Sounds to me like you're making excuses from your perspective.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(March 5, 2012 at 11:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What is your evidence for your appraisal of their perspective? Sounds to me like you're making excuses from your perspective. No, I'm explaining that the story is not about human sacrifice for several reasons. I listed all those reasons. If you want to critique them individually, go ahead.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto: "In God is our trust." And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! -4th verse of the american national anthem RE: Psalm 137:9
March 5, 2012 at 11:09 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 11:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I understand that you have tried to excuse your fairy tale by any way except the most obvious (that it is a fairy tale). However, I don't think you actually understand what a human sacrifice is to begin with, and I fail to see that you've demonstrated anything except that you have a fertile imagination. In a word....
Evidence?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(March 5, 2012 at 11:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I understand that you have tried to excuse your fairy tale by any way except the most obvious (that it is a fairy tale). However, I don't think you actually understand what a human sacrifice is to begin with, and I fail to see that you've demonstrated anything except that you have a fertile imagination. In a word.... If you are not willing to prove me wrong then my point stands.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto: "In God is our trust." And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! -4th verse of the american national anthem Quote:Did you not read it? YES I FUCKING READ IT He's an apologist too...just like you. He's making excuses for his bullshit just like you are. You are both blind because you oh-so-desperately want to believe that your fucking god is not just one more iron-age barbaric monstrosity. You ( and he) are FUCKING WRONG. I do not need some apologetic asshole to explain the words to me. I can read them myself. You, obviously, cannot. Now do you fucking get it? This is simple shit....simple enough even for you. Jeptha makes a vow and keeps his vow. Figure it out. (March 5, 2012 at 11:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Did you not read it? It's not that simple. You take things out of context. You cannot read the beginning and the end to figure out the story.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto: "In God is our trust." And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! -4th verse of the american national anthem
I don't think you know what "context" means.
If you did, you would not try to shoehorn the beliefs of ignorant iron-age goat herders into modern life. Wake up. The coffee is brewing. RE: Psalm 137:9
March 5, 2012 at 11:23 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 11:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 5, 2012 at 11:15 pm)chipan Wrote: If you are not willing to prove me wrong then my point stands. I have no responsibility to prove you wrong, you must prove yourself right. You have to make your own case on something someday Chip. "I said it so it stands" is the way a child argues. Evidence? (you could demonstrate, just as one example, that this actually occurred, or you could demonstrate that you are presenting a perspective that is theirs, and not your own. Anthropologists do this all the time, but we all know how much you hate actual science..so I;m not holding my breath)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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