I'm not denying that red is associated with leftist politics, I'm saying it is absurd to say that nobody other than leftists "deserve" to use the colour. Colours are chosen by movements; they are not owned by them.

(March 5, 2012 at 8:04 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I'm not denying that red is associated with leftist politics, I'm saying it is absurd to say that nobody other than leftists "deserve" to use the colour. Colours are chosen by movements; they are not owned by them.

I understand, color is color.

But the vast majority of people right here and now consider (politically) the solid color red as socialism and leftism...I personally was pissed when they gave the Republicans the red color. Not that the democrats were deserving of it either. I think the Republicans should be white and the Democrats blue. white is a traditional conservative political color and blue is perfect for the dems because many of them are "blue dogs" anyways (conservative Democrats). Its a nice moderate type color.

Its really nothing to gripe over. Both of us made great points.

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Or maybe the republicans should go with gold now?

The republicans aren't anarcho-capitalists. If I recall correctly, the Libertarian party have gold as their colour though.

(March 5, 2012 at 8:18 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The republicans aren't anarcho-capitalists. If I recall correctly, the Libertarian party have gold as their colour though.

Fuck. Is THAT ever appropriate!

(March 5, 2012 at 4:36 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Quote:A crisis of Presidential succession? Yes. If the Obama birth certificate is not valid, and no actual valid document exist, then neither President nor Vice President exists. In which case the Speaker of the House of Representatives must act as President. It is therefore incumbent upon him to investigate. [3]

By trying to make Obama ineligable, they will remove him and his vice president, and supposedly everything he has done thereby making the Rpublican speaker of the house John Boehner president.

They kill 2 birds with one stone. Get rid of the darky and replace him with a "real american" (i.e. white Republican christian)

I'm sorry, but how does the vice-president become get out of the line of succession if this is the case?

He doesn't as far as I am aware. Not sure what reverendjeremiah means by that statement, but to me it reeks of conspiracy theory. I should point out at this point that you can't "make" someone ineligible; they either are or they aren't. Barack Obama was born in the USA to an American woman; he is therefore a natural born citizen, and perfectly eligible to be president.

(March 5, 2012 at 8:04 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I'm not denying that red is associated with leftist politics, I'm saying it is absurd to say that nobody other than leftists "deserve" to use the colour. Colours are chosen by movements; they are not owned by them.

Well, "the red apple" is always used to denote the cause that we Turkists fight for.
But our colour is nominally sky blue as is the flag that we wave high, we call it the "gökbayrak" meaning "blue flag", it only has the colour blue as it's background colour.
The communists, however, seem to have the red as their background colour, but it's actually the hammer and sickle which represents their true affiliations.
I think that colours are what you make of them. But the term "red" has been used by the west to denote the soviet menace, and we've also taken this term into our own language as "kızıllar", meaning "the reds".

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(March 6, 2012 at 5:28 am)Tiberius Wrote: He doesn't as far as I am aware. Not sure what reverendjeremiah means by that statement, but to me it reeks of conspiracy theory. I should point out at this point that you can't "make" someone ineligible; they either are or they aren't. Barack Obama was born in the USA to an American woman; he is therefore a natural born citizen, and perfectly eligible to be president.

Well, he is president right now, so I wonder what questions are there regarding his eligibility to become president anyways?

(March 6, 2012 at 5:28 am)Tiberius Wrote: Not sure what reverendjeremiah means by that statement, but to me it reeks of conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy Theory? From Conservopedia? Shut your mouth.

It's not RevJ's statement.

(March 6, 2012 at 5:28 am)Tiberius Wrote: He doesn't as far as I am aware. Not sure what reverendjeremiah means by that statement, but to me it reeks of conspiracy theory. I should point out at this point that you can't "make" someone ineligible; they either are or they aren't. Barack Obama was born in the USA to an American woman; he is therefore a natural born citizen, and perfectly eligible to be president.

Try to tell Conservapedia that.

And now they're trying to claim that Obama is ineligible as president because prior to the 14th Amendment being ratified black people or anyone with more black blood than normal were not considered people, let alone natural-born citizens. They kind of gave up on the whole birth certificate issue, seeing as how nobody gives a shit about it, and got rid of the thin veil covering their racism.