(March 24, 2012 at 12:26 pm)Phil Wrote: What is a morphic resonance field

Something he stole from either Pratchett or Sid Meier.

Sounds good to the marks, so the word is useful. Here you go Jay, the morphic man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake

See, backed up by scientific fact. Not so dippy now am I?

Trolling right? It isn't backed up by science......it's backed up by psuedo-science. Got your philosophers stone handy? Maybe we can turn this morphic turd into scientific gold?

(March 24, 2012 at 9:37 pm)Phil Wrote: You really have no idea what in scientific detail meant nor do you understand what it has been seen means. If you can't answer my question, do yourself a favor and shut up lest you make yourself look very stupid.

As a layman I summarized the work of those who specialize in evolutionary biology. I'm not about to cut and past the technical papers to which I referred. "Dawin's Radio' presents a means for overcoming creationist arguments of macro evolution versus micro, something I thought you might welcome. If you want to remain ignorant just so you can call other people stupid, I feel bad for you.

(March 25, 2012 at 11:30 am)ChadWooters Wrote: As a layman I summarized the work of those who specialize in evolutionary biology.

If you really think that is what you did, let me be the first to inform you that you are under a severe psychotic break with reality. Seek professional help.

Quite frankly I have continuing problems with my personal bitmap ....does that count??

(March 25, 2012 at 8:03 pm)Phil Wrote:

(March 25, 2012 at 11:30 am)ChadWooters Wrote: As a layman I summarized the work of those who specialize in evolutionary biology.

If you really think that is what you did, let me be the first to inform you that you are under a severe psychotic break with reality. Seek professional help.

Okay fine, if you want to be an ass about it here's the technical abstract. Have fun refuting it.


The male-specific region of Y chromosome (MSY) has accumulated a higher density of human endogenous retroviruses (HERVs) and related sequences when compared with other regions of the human genome. Here, we focused on one HERV family, HERV-K14C that seemed to integrate preferentially into the Y chromosome in humans. To identify every copies of HERV-K14C in the human genome, we applied computational screening to map precisely the locus of individual HERV-K14C copies. Interestingly, 29 of all 146 copies were located in Y chromosome, and these 29 copies were mostly dispersed in the palindromic region. Three distinct HERV-K14C-related transcripts were found and were exclusively expressed in human testis tissue. Based on our phylogenetic analysis of the solitary LTRs derived from HERV-K14C on the Y chromosome we suggested that these sequences were generated as pairs of identical sequences. Specifically, analysis of HERV-K14C-related sequences in the palindromic region demonstrated that the Y chromosomal amplicons existed in our common ancestors and the duplicated pairs arose after divergence of great apes approximately 8-10 million years ago. Taken together, our observation suggested that HERV-K14C-related sequences contributed to genomic diversification of Y chromosome during speciation of great ape lineage.

Keyword, "contributed". Mutations haven't lost any ground here. Pathogens are an environmental pressure. Some people read too much into this "we're descended from viruses" or "natural selection does not account for but viruses might" (which seems to be the route you've taken), but what in this abstract suggests that to you?

"Contributed" is a key word, because it suggests a natural mechanism that would assist mutation. If true this would solve one of the primary dilemmas of evolution. That is this: the inordinate and improbable number of happy accidents required to create a new species.