(March 30, 2012 at 6:50 pm)Telsa Wrote:

(March 30, 2012 at 6:34 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Is this a shit and run? I didn't see any follow up posts from Telsa. Or did I just miss it?

haha shit and run I like that. No, I haven't posted anything because there hasn't been any actual inquiries. Everyone is convinced I'm schizo and its cased closed :/

What would you say if a Muslim or Hindu told you the same thing? Probably that it's nonsense and you'd be right. When you understand that you will have some insight into the way people view what you have just said.

(March 30, 2012 at 6:50 pm)Telsa Wrote: haha shit and run I like that. No, I haven't posted anything because there hasn't been any actual inquiries. Everyone is convinced I'm schizo and its cased closed :/

No its more like "Shit my prophecy didn't come true so its time to tuck my tail between my legs and disappear".

Quote:What would you say if a Muslim or Hindu told you the same thing? Probably that it's nonsense and you'd be right. When you understand that you will have some insight into the way people view what you have just said.

If a Muslim or Hindu told me that they were experiencing similar things, I would have a bevy of questions for them. I would probably assume their schizo, just based on pure probablity and the fact that I don't think Hinduism is accurate or Islam is true. On the other hand, Buddhism is obviously true, as any seeker will find (meditate!); and Christianity is true, as any seeker will find (pray!).
I think I'm different b/c I DON'T have any of the symptoms of schizophrenia--I have coherent, logical, and critical thinking (as opposed to fuzzy, incorehent delusional thinking); I am a participating member in the community (as opposed to isolative); I don't suffer from bipolar, depression, or any other co-occuring disorder (unlike many schizos); I shower reguarly (unlike many schizos) and no-one who knows me well thinks I am suffering from schizophrenia (usually those close to sufferers from schizophrenia find it painfully obvious). There.

(March 30, 2012 at 7:41 pm)Telsa Wrote:

Quote:What would you say if a Muslim or Hindu told you the same thing? Probably that it's nonsense and you'd be right. When you understand that you will have some insight into the way people view what you have just said.

If a Muslim or Hindu told me that they were experiencing similar things, I would have a bevy of questions for them. I would probably assume their schizo, just based on pure probablity and the fact that I don't think Hinduism is accurate or Islam is true. On the other hand, Buddhism is obviously true, as any seeker will find (meditate!); and Christianity is true, as any seeker will find (pray!).
I think I'm different b/c I DON'T have any of the symptoms of schizophrenia--I have coherent, logical, and critical thinking (as opposed to fuzzy, incorehent delusional thinking); I am a participating member in the community (as opposed to isolative); I don't suffer from bipolar, depression, or any other co-occuring disorder (unlike many schizos); I shower reguarly (unlike many schizos) and no-one who knows me well thinks I am suffering from schizophrenia (usually those close to sufferers from schizophrenia find it painfully obvious). There.

I don't neccessarily think you are schizophrenic or psychotic, which refers to a specific cluster of symptoms outlined in the DSM-IV, I don't have enough info to make a diagnosis. A person can have false beliefs without being overtly delusional. Take white supremecists or folks who believe in new age medicine. This is the difference between mental illness and incorrect superstitious belief. I think you are correctly skeptical of other religions but like many theists you appear to have a blind spot for your own. Take that same skepticism and apply it to your own beliefs and it will yield similar results.

(March 30, 2012 at 7:41 pm)Telsa Wrote: If a Muslim or Hindu told me that they were experiencing similar things, I would have a bevy of questions for them. I would probably assume their schizo, just based on pure probablity and the fact that I don't think Hinduism is accurate or Islam is true. On the other hand, Buddhism is obviously true, as any seeker will find (meditate!); and Christianity is true, as any seeker will find (pray!).

It's not a question of whether we think you're schizophrenic, that term is thrown around too often, and usually inaccurate to what it means.

The question is, why do you dismiss other religions beliefs that equal yours, and why it does not apply to you.
They are equally "sane" and "rational" as you.

The fact is, the mind is a powerful thing, and can create illusions that defy belief.

The fact you came to skeptics is proof that you cannot be 100% sure that you experiencing reality.

Like my signature, self-authenticating private belief is useless, because its indistinguishable from the illusion of it.

Meditate on that.

(March 30, 2012 at 6:50 pm)Telsa Wrote: Everyone is convinced I'm schizo and its cased closed :/

Can't win for losing.

These other cats simply give no credence to the existence of prophet, so they go with the science. Prophet = loony.

I remember standing before the creator of the universe and receiving the title of prophet, and I'm definitely loony. So there it is.

Besides, how does one processes simultaneity with equipment evolved to process sequence? How does a mortal "speak for" an eternal? How does one see the cosmos from a pale blue dot? How does one know that what is to come is already past?

Answer: Nucking Futs. Silly.

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[quote]I don't neccessarily think you are schizophrenic or psychotic, which refers to a specific cluster of symptoms outlined in the DSM-IV, I don't have enough info to make a diagnosis. A person can have false beliefs without being overtly delusional. Take white supremecists or folks who believe in new age medicine. This is the difference between mental illness and incorrect superstitious belief. I think you are correctly skeptical of other religions but like many theists you appear to have a blind spot for your own. Take that same skepticism and apply it to your own beliefs and it will yield similar results.
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Ok. A couple things. First, just about everyone here has said I'm schizo, with little cause. Second, I HAVE applied skepticism to my religion--and I became an atheist. It was by continuing to seek greater Truth that led me to Buddhism. After I was Buddhist, God called me back to Him through coincidences and forced...well,more like invited--me to abandon my belief that there is no Greater Being. There was simply to much meaning in what was happening, be it the coincidences or the time constantly being the same or changing the second I got into the room. In all honesty, it would have required greater faith for me to remain atheist.

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(March 30, 2012 at 8:12 pm)Telsa Wrote: [quote='mediamogul' pid='263909' dateline='1333151193']
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Quote:I don't neccessarily think you are schizophrenic or psychotic, which refers to a specific cluster of symptoms outlined in the DSM-IV, I don't have enough info to make a diagnosis. A person can have false beliefs without being overtly delusional. Take white supremecists or folks who believe in new age medicine. This is the difference between mental illness and incorrect superstitious belief. I think you are correctly skeptical of other religions but like many theists you appear to have a blind spot for your own. Take that same skepticism and apply it to your own beliefs and it will yield similar results.

Ok. A couple things. First, just about everyone here has said I'm schizo, with little cause. Second, I HAVE applied skepticism to my religion--and I became an atheist. It was by continuing to seek greater Truth that led me to Buddhism. After I was Buddhist, God called me back to Him through coincidences and forced...well,more like invited--me to abandon my belief that there is no Greater Being. There was simply to much meaning in what was happening, be it the coincidences or the time constantly being the same or changing the second I got into the room. In all honesty, it would have required greater faith for me to remain atheist.

Did God mention his name? For all you know it was Allah calling you and by now he'd be pretty pissed that you think it's that fake Christian god that called you.

Actually Telsa, the thing that was most amusing about your OP (as I did not take any of it seriously) was the part about talking to the cosmos and then waiting for the digital clock to show you a number of some significance. That was simply spectacular.

I don't think you're delusional or a schizo. I think you're weak.
You said it yourself. You cried yourself to sleep when you accepted being an atheist and then begged for god again years later. You're a weak person who will clutch at any flimsy straw to experience some kind of meaning and love. You grasped onto every newly discovered religious notion that appealed to you until you found something more suitable. You moved through the all the major religions this way and then settled back into a hybrid of something new, something understood (Christianity), and a whole lot of spiritualist bull shit. The only reason you believe in the nonsense you're cherry picking (and you're CLEARLY cherry picking the stuff you do and don't like) is because you desperately need it to feel some kind of higher meaning in your life. You can't just live can you ... there just HAS to be something out there for you.

You're not a schizo. You're weak & pathetic.

Quote: In all honesty, it would have required greater faith for me to remain atheist.

I believe your experience was real to you. However,it is neither reasonable nor rational to expect others to believe without proof.

Generally speaking,people who claim to have had visions are considered mentally unwell. So far,everything you have posted has reinforced that impression.

However,none of us here is a psychiatrist. Even if there was one here, there is insufficient evidence to make a clinical diagnosis,in my opinion. So we form a strong 'lay impression' which may well be wrong. For your sake, I sincerely hope we are wrong.