Thank God for all the good things that happen to you.

Think God is testing you or has a mysterious plan when bad things happen.

Conflict?

(April 15, 2012 at 8:12 am)Christian Wrote: As I mentioned earlier in one of my posts, I believe God does not involve himself in the wordly affairs - so he is neither responsible for finding someone's lost key, or helping TimTebow throw a pass, or solve world hunger. It's all up to man to use the God-given gifts to solve these problems.

So your god is no different from the rich selfish bastard that refuses to give anything to charities, appeals or relief efforts for people in need...

Yet he expects us mortals to find the time of day to worship and glorify him and be thankful for it...

The Fucker.

(April 15, 2012 at 5:15 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: So your god is no different from the rich selfish bastard that refuses to give anything to charities, appeals or relief efforts for people in need...

Yet he expects us mortals to find the time of day to worship and glorify him and be thankful for it...

Not as you put it (vocabulary used), but the answer is yes. Everything is man's own doing, so fix what you broke.
And God does not ask you to worship him. It's the personal choice of man to worship him (as I do) or ridicule him (as you do).

(April 15, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Christian Wrote: Everything is man's own doing, so fix what you broke.

Everything including the natural disasters? You're being silly again.

Quote:And God does not ask you to worship him. It's the personal choice of man to worship him (as I do) or ridicule him (as you do).

Hello, I don't think we've met before. I'm Welsh cake, and I'm an atheist.

I can't worship or ridicule what I don't believe exists.

(April 15, 2012 at 8:12 am)Christian Wrote: Looks like Drich did not understand the OP, who thinks that God is credited with something so minuscule and insignificant as finding a lost key while at the same time, a universal problem such as world hunger is left unsolved (and we absolve God of any blame for the misery, while simultaneously claiming that this being is the infinitely powerful and infinitely knowing creator of the Universe). As I mentioned earlier in one of my posts, I believe God does not involve himself in the wordly affairs - so he is neither responsible for finding someone's lost key, or helping TimTebow throw a pass, or solve world hunger. It's all up to man to use the God-given gifts to solve these problems.

Nice cop out, and one step closer to atheism for you.

(April 15, 2012 at 8:12 am)Christian Wrote: how convenient. so, he created people with all this divisiveness and is now sitting back with a scotch and a cigar enjoying the chaos? well if it's all the same, i'll use my "god-given" gift to think you are hallucinating.

when you generalize and broaden the idea with terms like "world hunger", you minimize the sting. look at that individual kid there, why didn't he get to any god-given gifts? perhaps, not feed the kid directly, but put it in someone else's heart to see that that child eats and often.

Ah but isn't it a hallucination that Genesis only had a couple, to manufacture hundreds of thousands. Then Noah after everyone died from the flood, had to repopulate the earth. Billions of humans.

Same with the coupling of animals we do know inbreeding say poodles leave them sickly - very sickly and likely to die quickly or as nature would have it stranded and pushed away from being fed.

Back to Genesis how'd we get plants et al w/o sunlight?

If looking into the Torah there was Lilith not just Eve as the first.
(that's some translating job eh?)

Looking through the Abrahamic 3 there are similarities and great holes of conflict. Yet these were the 'chosen' people.

Overlooking biblical contradictions (glaring as they are)

How can one take a xtian and the other 2 Abrahamic's (Muslim, Jewish) seriously? Then why are these 3 always a fighten? When written so very closely together yet so diversely apart aside from the killing of the non believer, no one is ready to admit a trio, a family. Nor any other kindred feelings for each other except to kill.

Jewish always wanting "peace" yet never achieve it. Of course they blame the Muslim same family status's and blaming the Jewish. American xtian's lean toward the Jewish folk because of some insane passage about returning to Israel, when the world ends.

I digress.

Of course there is world hunger when believers are all entwined with the above nonsense. Mercenaries scaring little kids that 'their' beliefs will send them to hell especially their parents. Bibles are more important then to give out food.

Pharmaceutical companies too busy making billions rather than sending out w/the doctor w/o borders real medicines. Building hospitals over schools for now. Same Mercenaries asking the people to practice rhythm methods over life saving condoms to the indigenous that have AIDS/HIV.

Lot's wrong with this xtian culture. Much more than 'free will' can answer in the 'confessional'. It is just plain ordinary not giving a shit.

That would be refreshing to hear free will is a xtian's way of saying I don't give a shit about anything else except my small and unreasonable mind.


Whew got that out.

(April 15, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Christian Wrote: And God does not ask you to worship him. It's the personal choice of man to worship him (as I do) or ridicule him (as you do).

Really? then why does he send unbelievers to hell??

(April 15, 2012 at 3:07 pm)Adjusted Sanity Wrote: Makes me glad I don't believe in a personal god. They tend to be pricks

And their followers are so much worse.

(April 15, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Christian Wrote:

(April 15, 2012 at 5:15 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: So your god is no different from the rich selfish bastard that refuses to give anything to charities, appeals or relief efforts for people in need...

Yet he expects us mortals to find the time of day to worship and glorify him and be thankful for it...

Not as you put it (vocabulary used), but the answer is yes. Everything is man's own doing, so fix what you broke.
And God does not ask you to worship him. It's the personal choice of man to worship him (as I do) or ridicule him (as you do).

mmmmhmmm ... vocabulary your god!

(April 15, 2012 at 10:39 pm)Cinjin Wrote: mmmmhmmm ... vocabulary your god!

Now that is something I do rebel against, using proper grammar, and nice vocabulary.