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if god is real then...
May 12, 2012 at 2:56 pm
If God is real then who created god? and there no possible why he could have always existed.
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RE: if god is real then...
May 12, 2012 at 3:45 pm
(May 12, 2012 at 2:56 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: If God is real then who created god? and there no possible why he could have always existed.
It's the same argument with the creationists, if someone/something created life, then who created that creator?
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RE: if god is real then...
May 12, 2012 at 6:46 pm
This is like the oldest argument against the existence of God. It's mostly a futile argument I'm afraid because theists think God existed eternally outside of time where cause and effect are meaningless.
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RE: if god is real then...
May 12, 2012 at 7:35 pm
There is no limit to the amount of stupid shit theists can up with to say about their invisible sky-daddy.
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RE: if god is real then...
May 13, 2012 at 12:17 am
You can ask this question for anything that exists. It's always felt like a meaningless question to me.
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RE: if god is real then...
May 18, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Same argument over the existence of the universe. What created the Big Bang and what if anything existed in the time prior?
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RE: if god is real then...
May 19, 2012 at 7:23 am
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2012 at 7:32 am by Ace Otana.)
(May 18, 2012 at 9:14 pm)Polaris Wrote: Same argument over the existence of the universe. What created the Big Bang and what if anything existed in the time prior?
There was no 'before' the big bang. Time did not exist. Also what created the big bang? Perhaps quantum mechanics (another law of nature) is what allows the universe to simply pop into existence. Photons pop in and out of existence all the time, and the universe was once smaller than a photon.
See? We don't need a god to explain it.
Krauss explains it well and so does Stephen Hawking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-jQUHUF1...re=related
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