It's no fun, shooting whales in a barrel.

For you shall know the Truth and the Truth will set you free

yes it will. At first you won't like it though because its kind of an emotional free fall. Then you'll realize that by knoweldge of the truth you have greatly empowered yourself because you no longer believe in magic, but in yourself.

Peace In
Omjag86

Well, welcome I_Fight_for_Jesus_Christ. You seem to under the assumption that you're right and we're wrong. What if we're right and you're wrong?

You know you are only a couple weeks younger than my youngest son. It would be fun to see you two debate. He is an atheist.

You won't have to leave IF, you'll be banned, and quite quickly. Will you flaunt the rules or want to keep within them??

Quote:I still question it to some extent, but fortunately without the same type of ridicule you would find in questioning a follower of religion.

"Science" does not deserve that kind of ridicule because science constantly changes in its search for answers. "Religion" OTOH thinks it has all the answers and that they were figured out by a bunch of goat herders sitting around a camp fire a couple of thousand years ago.

THAT kind of certainly deserves eternal ridicule.

Science... Well it never really proves anything totally cos its all based on the laws of chance and probablility... Like everything else. So there is a chance, however remote, that everything that it has "proven" is not True. And the theores change all the time and what was considered science a 1000 years ago is considered pure idiocy now... And science cannot answer the questons of relegion as it is scientifically impossible to prove the existence or non-existence of God or anything else at that. Such issues have to be taken by faith. You either have the "faith" that God does not exist, or the Faith that He does.
As to proof, youll get it. Youll have to take my word of course, like I have to take yours, and my word is not worth more than any of yours but Ill give you the proofs that I truly beleive are valid. As to me standing out I never said that I stand out. I only said that I intend to... and I fully do.

Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see
no no no no

INSANITY is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.

and that is what makes you so dangerous because what do you do when your faith tells you to go out and kill someone in his name?

You kill

Who was that directed to fr0d0?? Wasn't sure if that was for me or Min.....

But I'll give a reply nonetheless.... .

For starters, the core of science is to know/understand the unknowing, and if you will reread what I stated, "Science has not answered everything", you would have understood my meaning.

Do I believe Science will be able to answer every single detail about everything in/of the unknowing???
Not likely, but at least we are actually putting forth the effort in trying....Which is more than I can say for the religious..

Do I believe that Science is the best possible principle and course of action that we have today in finding out the unknowing or at least come the closest to the answers sought??
Absolutely, yes....

For starters how do you scientific folks prove the non-existence of God and why do you non-scientific folk do not what to beleive in him if its a wuestion of beleif for you?

(August 30, 2009 at 11:59 am)I_Fight_for_Jesus_Christ Wrote: Sure I accept the inevitable. is it not right to do so? I know I'm not first and wont be last, but I intend to stand out a bit.... And yeah... Looks like youll have to get rid of another one... Though Its highly unlikely that youll get rid of me anytime soon. Muahahahaaa

If you are here to debate and learn about us as atheists then you are more than welcome.

If, on the other hand you are simply here to..

• Try to convert us
  
• Tell us the evolution is a lie
  
• Convince us that hell is real and we must accept Jesus into our lives
  
• Tell us the morality comes from God
  
• Tell us that we reject God
  
• Give us your own 'unique' perspective on scripture
  
• Persuade us that the Earth is a mere 6 to 10 thousand years old
  
• Display bigoted and homophobic behaviour and then use the bible to justify it
  
• Reject science in favour of myth
  
• Tell us that the end is near and you'll soon be raptured like your friend The_Truth
  
• Give us that old chestnut that the something can't come from nothing therefore the Universe must have been created
  
• etc. etc. etc.
  

Then I really wouldn't bother as every argument you put forwards will be savaged like a tiger hunting a baby deer.

You have been warned.. And..

Welcome

Quote: Science... Well it never really proves anything totally cos its all based on the laws of chance and probablility..

Learn about things before you talk about them. It will help in the long run.

Meanwhile....asserting "Goddidit" as an answer to every question is the height of stupidity.