(October 31, 2008 at 6:52 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: I think I pointed out the flaw in your "logic" from the second page of the thread. What are you on about?

present that again then because a person who as found a flaw in my logic will not continue until i explain what i think of it or say you are right

so present it again

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(October 31, 2008 at 6:56 pm)bozo Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 6:46 pm)S_Truth Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 6:41 pm)bozo Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 6:37 pm)S_Truth Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 6:33 pm)S_Truth Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 6:31 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: So to reiterate: So what do you think doesn't make life pointless and meaningless? By your standards.

by having an ultimate goal that has no limit like pleasures in life that have a limit

Also this not my standards anyone with logic would want the same outcome. For it is a question that a person needs answered.

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(October 31, 2008 at 6:35 pm)bozo Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 6:27 pm)S_Truth Wrote: Now why do you believe there is no ultimate purpose in life and i have given you the answer why an atheist life is pointless.

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(October 31, 2008 at 6:26 pm)Meatball Wrote: I'm on your side, man. I said in my first post life has no "goal" or "meaning".

I can't believe you don't understand the concept of pleasure though. If there was no point to pleasure and displeasure we'd be a sad, dead species.

What is the point of not being sad and not a dead species for the end result is death for all.
And i am not saying life has no ultimate meaning or goal, there is a end goal to life.

I'l say whateveryone els is thinking...ive just said it and it got censored

well repeat it then or send it to my pm

use your imagination......and don't try too hard pondering.

The whole time I have been using simple logic with you guys and no answer has been given. One can only come to one conclusion you have no answer and live your life without meaning and atheist now have been proven wrong at their own game.

The day you realize there is a energy inside of you and outside of you that guides everything in this universe and it does as it pleases on that day you will have meaning in your life.

Thank you for participating I hope you guys find what you are looking for in life and can conquer your own mind to see the Truth.

Another example of a complete irrational tosser that you can't seriously debate with.

If you were rational you would be able to abolish my arguement but you havn't instead you have resorted to name calling with got cesnored

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(October 31, 2008 at 6:26 pm)Meatball Wrote: I'm on your side, man. I said in my first post life has no "goal" or "meaning".

I can't believe you don't understand the concept of pleasure though. If there was no point to pleasure and displeasure we'd be a sad, dead species.

Edit: Fuck it:

Pleasure is good because it FEELS GOOD. Immediate gratification is GOOD. It's the definition of pleasure. It gives you fuzzies. It makes you happy.

Just because I'll die in 40 years doesn't mean I should discount my life up until that point. It's faulty logic, and doesn't support any "meaning".

I understand pleasure clearly what you have missed to understand is that no matter what path you take the end result for an atheist is the same which is meaningless and this meaning you found in pleasure is just another meaningless thing that led you no where and indulging into this pleasure is pointless.

leo-rcc Wrote:Oh I think I understand you very well. You are one of those people that seem to think that everything must have a purpose, even when there is no real need for one. Butterflies can do very well without purpose, monkeys can do very well without purpose, pretty much every animal on the planet can go without purpose. Yet because you as a thinking conscious animal have a need for purpose because most things around you serve a purpose to you.

I never called you any names, and nothing was censored. You have me confused with bozo.

(October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

leo-rcc Wrote:Oh I think I understand you very well. You are one of those people that seem to think that everything must have a purpose, even when there is no real need for one. Butterflies can do very well without purpose, monkeys can do very well without purpose, pretty much every animal on the planet can go without purpose. Yet because you as a thinking conscious animal have a need for purpose because most things around you serve a purpose to you.

I never called you any names, and nothing was censored. You have me confused with bozo.

I was speaking to bozo sorry about the mix up

(October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

leo-rcc Wrote:Oh I think I understand you very well. You are one of those people that seem to think that everything must have a purpose, even when there is no real need for one. Butterflies can do very well without purpose, monkeys can do very well without purpose, pretty much every animal on the planet can go without purpose. Yet because you as a thinking conscious animal have a need for purpose because most things around you serve a purpose to you.

I never called you any names, and nothing was censored. You have me confused with bozo.

S-Truth....how can I put it in a way that won't injure your fragile sensibility? fucking wanker
Leo...avoid bad company!

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

leo-rcc Wrote:Oh I think I understand you very well. You are one of those people that seem to think that everything must have a purpose, even when there is no real need for one. Butterflies can do very well without purpose, monkeys can do very well without purpose, pretty much every animal on the planet can go without purpose. Yet because you as a thinking conscious animal have a need for purpose because most things around you serve a purpose to you.

I never called you any names, and nothing was censored. You have me confused with bozo.

S-Truth....how can I put it in a way that won't injure your fragile sensibility? fucking wanker
Leo...avoid bad company!

By calling me names do you actually think it hurts me. It just makes you an irrational, stubborn, and ignorant person.

To call a person who uses rational and logic to define what he says bad company is another way to be stubborn and ignorant to the facts.

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote: S-Truth....how can I put it in a way that won't injure your fragile sensibility? fucking wanker

Is that a technical term? I see a contradiction in actions there anyway. I wouldn't know how to be both at the same time.

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote: Leo...avoid bad company!

I know should have a long while ago, but it was kind of fun for a while.

(October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote: S-Truth....how can I put it in a way that won't injure your fragile sensibility? fucking wanker

Is that a technical term?

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote: Leo...avoid bad company!

I know should have a long while ago, but it was kind of fun for a while.

Nice way to be in denial guys and a defense mechanism that you have developed from seeing the Truth of yourselves. Keep hiding behind all that denial.

(October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm)S_Truth Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

leo-rcc Wrote:Oh I think I understand you very well. You are one of those people that seem to think that everything must have a purpose, even when there is no real need for one. Butterflies can do very well without purpose, monkeys can do very well without purpose, pretty much every animal on the planet can go without purpose. Yet because you as a thinking conscious animal have a need for purpose because most things around you serve a purpose to you.

I never called you any names, and nothing was censored. You have me confused with bozo.

S-Truth....how can I put it in a way that won't injure your fragile sensibility? fucking wanker
Leo...avoid bad company!

By calling me names do you actually think it hurts me. It just makes you an irrational, stubborn, and ignorant person.

To call a person who uses rational and logic to define what he says bad company is another way to be stubborn and ignorant to the facts.

repeat, you are a time-wasting,irrational, annoying wanker now fuck off and go to heaven...and if i get there ill punch your lights out. got it?

(October 31, 2008 at 7:25 pm)S_Truth Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote: S-Truth....how can I put it in a way that won't injure your fragile sensibility? fucking wanker

Is that a technical term?

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote: Leo...avoid bad company!

I know should have a long while ago, but it was kind of fun for a while.

Nice way to be in denial guys and a defense mechanism that you have developed from seeing the Truth of yourselves. Keep hiding behind all that denial.

Remember this one?

leo-rcc Wrote:Well the reason I am asking is that the way I see it we are going around in circles because you are looking for an answer of what i think is a non existing question.

You ask "What is the meaning of (your/my/fill in name here) life?" which presupposes there is one.
I ask what makes you think there is a meaning because I suppose there is none.
Then you go of in that tantrum again about morality, which makes absolutly no sense to me because morality to me is naturalistic behaviour in a group, in our case society or civilization. And thats ans answer you can't live with apparently.

Am I wrong, if so, where?

Who exactly is in denial now?

(October 31, 2008 at 7:26 pm)bozo Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm)S_Truth Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote:

(October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

leo-rcc Wrote:Oh I think I understand you very well. You are one of those people that seem to think that everything must have a purpose, even when there is no real need for one. Butterflies can do very well without purpose, monkeys can do very well without purpose, pretty much every animal on the planet can go without purpose. Yet because you as a thinking conscious animal have a need for purpose because most things around you serve a purpose to you.

I never called you any names, and nothing was censored. You have me confused with bozo.

S-Truth....how can I put it in a way that won't injure your fragile sensibility? fucking wanker
Leo...avoid bad company!

By calling me names do you actually think it hurts me. It just makes you an irrational, stubborn, and ignorant person.

To call a person who uses rational and logic to define what he says bad company is another way to be stubborn and ignorant to the facts.

repeat, you are a time-wasting,irrational, annoying wanker now fuck off and go to heaven...and if i get there ill punch your lights out. got it?

I am in heaven who said heaven was in only one place. Just keep repeating that I am a irrational person maybe you'll start believing in that eventually. They say repittion is one of the best ways to make one believe in something that is not true.