So, Satan ultimately made us more aware of ourselves and the world.

(August 29, 2012 at 2:00 am)Chuck Wrote: Rather,

God: "and I though I was the god"

Christians : " you are god, you are god"

God: *facepalm*

*Facepalm*

About the topic, I find such sayings complete bullshit. It's like someone can claim that them sinning is not their fault and blame it all upon Adam and Eve, not caring about any consequences.

(September 11, 2012 at 7:30 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 7:25 pm)Drich Wrote: ...Actually no. Adam and Eve would still be running around naked. Without knoweledge of their nakedness, no babies.. (as it was before the fall)

Wait, so if "knowledge of nakedness" is necessary for reproduction, and this knowledge only comes once sins enters the world, then is sex sin? Something God designed is inherently sinful? Is that what you're implying?

Apparently in God's "perfect world" there would be no sex?

How many children did Adam and Eve have while living in the Garden?

Why? Because there was no need to reproduce and repopulate if they lived forever.

If you note Cain and Able did not come after the fall.

Quote:Actually no. Adam and Eve would still be running around naked. Without knoweledge of their nakedness, no babies.. (as it was before the fall)

What an infantile belief system that is.

(September 11, 2012 at 9:05 pm)Drich Wrote: How many children did Adam and Eve have while living in the Garden?

Why? Because there was no need to reproduce and repopulate if they lived forever.

If you note Cain and Able did not come after the fall.

Seems rather weird that working reproductive organs would be given to them if they had no need to reproduce. Or was that a backup plan? God made a backup plan just in case he perfectly screwed up.

(September 11, 2012 at 9:45 pm)Tempus Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 9:05 pm)Drich Wrote: How many children did Adam and Eve have while living in the Garden?

Why? Because there was no need to reproduce and repopulate if they lived forever.

If you note Cain and Able did not come after the fall.

Seems rather weird that working reproductive organs would be given to them if they had no need to reproduce. Or was that a backup plan? God made a backup plan just in case he perfectly screwed up.

Or the Fall was always apart of said plan.. God know of the comming fall planed to populate the planet and then provide redemption for all of seek it. (john1)

(September 11, 2012 at 9:48 pm)Drich Wrote: Or the Fall was always apart of said plan.. God know of the comming fall planed to populate the planet and then provide redemption for all of seek it. (john1)

(September 11, 2012 at 9:05 pm)Drich Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 7:30 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Wait, so if "knowledge of nakedness" is necessary for reproduction, and this knowledge only comes once sins enters the world, then is sex sin? Something God designed is inherently sinful? Is that what you're implying?

Apparently in God's "perfect world" there would be no sex?

How many children did Adam and Eve have while living in the Garden?

Why? Because there was no need to reproduce and repopulate if they lived forever.

If you note Cain and Able did not come after the fall.

Wait, so repopulation is purely for counteracting your own limited lifespan?

Maybe that's why God created life? Is God going to die? Are we his replacements?

There's of course the whole issue of sin being inherited that you've neglected.

Adam and Eve weren't "Born unto sin." Why should everyone else be?

I feel your only argument is to say that God's plans failed on purpose. If God was omnipotent, he would have known in advance the betrayal of Adam and Eve and he also would not have had to look for them in Eden after they ate it and found they were naked.

Quote:God know of the comming fall

That makes your "god" an immense prick.