Words fail me after reading the linked article.

It happens, alot.
I'm not surprised. Only thing rare about this incident is that it got media coverage.

*pukes a little bit in my mouth*

I felt so terrible seeing the live cat in set concrete...

There's so little that you can do. Even putting it out of it's misery seems like a travesty because it feels like another stroke of injustice to the creature, which certainly did not deserve that.

However, poor feelings aside, I'd have to immediately acquire nitrogen tanks and a fitting over the vessel, and then vent into their. The trapped critter would suffocate without feeling carbon dioxide poisoning.

Still, bad feels all around.

This really disturbs me....I could never imagine bringing myself to mistreat an animal. It's pretty bad that the very people who pets trust and rely on, are the very ones who abuse them. It can't be called anything else but evil.

(September 23, 2012 at 9:41 am)A Theist Wrote: This really disturbs me....I could never imagine bringing myself to mistreat an animal. It's pretty bad that the very people who pets trust and rely on, are the very ones who abuse them. It can't be called anything else but evil.

Wrong YES! Motivated by a supernatural force No. My dog was about to be put down in a dog pound in Ireland, when he was rescued. He is a very pretty animal, but that time still affects him. Seven years latter he is still wary of people who are confident with animals. or men with sticks. This behaviour has been explained to me, that it is hard emotionally to work in a pound which puts dogs down and the employees have to separate themselves from the animals, consequently very appealing puppies tend to get the worst treatment.

(September 23, 2012 at 10:39 am)jonb Wrote:

(September 23, 2012 at 9:41 am)A Theist Wrote: This really disturbs me....I could never imagine bringing myself to mistreat an animal. It's pretty bad that the very people who pets trust and rely on, are the very ones who abuse them. It can't be called anything else but evil.

Wrong YES! Motivated by a supernatural force No. My dog was about to be put down in a dog pound in Ireland, when he was rescued. He is a very pretty animal, but that time still affects him. Seven years latter he is still wary of people who are confident with animals. or men with sticks. This behaviour has been explained to me, that it is hard emotionally to work in a pound which puts dogs down and the employees have to separate themselves from the animals, consequently very appealing puppies tend to get the worst treatment.

I was speaking of evil in the natural sense. Some people don't need much encouragement from outside forces to do evil things. They're just plain evil. The scenario you mentioned is completely different. There are times, unfortunately, when animals have to be put down humanely by a vet or other qualified people. But to tie a puppy in a bag then throw it out of a moving car and leaving it to suffer and die is just plain evil.

Theist in the way your talking about evil here then I am in agreement with you. Except its all shades, there are those that would laugh at us talking about animals suffering when there a fucks about like the 'lords resistance army' doing worse to people. But to my mind you let the small things go and they become bigger. You are probably not aware of what is happening in London at the moment. The police had a crack down on the carrying of knives, many of the local ruffs started using pit-bull type dogs as a replacement for the knives. Most of these sods have no idea how to look after an animal, and consequently even seeing eye dogs are getting attacked by these out of control animals. Where as a few years ago walking the dog was an easy way of meeting people, as owners would actually approach each other an get chatting about their pets, in my locality now wise owners avoid other dogs, because there are so many attacks, and many dogs learn to be more aggressive. Evil, no but the effects build up. Also rings running dog fights seem to be getting more common. And that is happening in a country which was once known for its love of dogs.

(September 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm)jonb Wrote: Theist in the way your talking about evil here then I am in agreement with you. Except its all shades, there are those that would laugh at us talking about animals suffering when there a fucks about like the 'lords resistance army' doing worse to people. But to my mind you let the small things go and they become bigger. You are probably not aware of what is happening in London at the moment. The police had a crack down on the carrying of knives, many of the local ruffs started using pit-bull type dogs as a replacement for the knives. Most of these sods have no idea how to look after an animal, and consequently even seeing eye dogs are getting attacked by these out of control animals. Where as a few years ago walking the dog was an easy way of meeting people, as owners would actually approach each other an get chatting about their pets, in my locality now wise owners avoid other dogs, because there are so many attacks, and many dogs learn to be more aggressive. Evil, no but the effects build up. Also rings running dog fights seem to be getting more common. And that is happening in a country which was once known for its love of dogs.

Wow! That's unbelievable jonb and it's a real shame. To me, in my opinion, that would be a part of animal cruelty, for a person to teach a dog to be aggressive toward other animals and people.

(September 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm)jonb Wrote: Theist in the way your talking about evil here then I am in agreement with you. Except its all shades, there are those that would laugh at us talking about animals suffering when there a fucks about like the 'lords resistance army' doing worse to people. But to my mind you let the small things go and they become bigger. You are probably not aware of what is happening in London at the moment. The police had a crack down on the carrying of knives, many of the local ruffs started using pit-bull type dogs as a replacement for the knives. Most of these sods have no idea how to look after an animal, and consequently even seeing eye dogs are getting attacked by these out of control animals. Where as a few years ago walking the dog was an easy way of meeting people, as owners would actually approach each other an get chatting about their pets, in my locality now wise owners avoid other dogs, because there are so many attacks, and many dogs learn to be more aggressive. Evil, no but the effects build up. Also rings running dog fights seem to be getting more common. And that is happening in a country which was once known for its love of dogs.

I've seen jackasses like that here, too. It's kinda ironic because firearms are legal in Texas (or Oklahoma, where it happened) but that doesn't prevent people from being jerks.

A few years ago, I had a job at a Walmart. I didn't have a car so I had to walk about a mile or so through my neighborhood to get to work.... and it wasn't the nicest neighborhood. Most of the people in this neighborhood considered their dogs a sign of how tough they are; they raised their dogs to be mean and aggressive because it made them look mean and aggressive. It's problematic because cheap neighborhoods like this don't always have good fences to keep dogs in the yard and it wasn't uncommon for their dogs to get out and chase people around. I had to call animal control on multiple occasions to do something about it.

Some people want to ban pit bulls because that's the dog most often being used as "I'm-a-badass" dogs. Truth is, I don't see that working. If pit bulls are banned, these assholes are just going to get a doberman. If dobermans are banned, they'll just get another type of dog. The problem isn't the dog, it's the assholes who raise them to be aggressive.