(November 9, 2012 at 7:15 pm)Truth Matters Wrote:

(November 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm)Cinjin Wrote:



It doesn't matter how legitimate our story is or how identical it is to yours.
It's never good enough. Ask Frohole, Dick, Godspile or any of our local christards ... we weren't REAL CHRISTIANS simply because they say so.

Why bother proving the legitimacy of our conviction to a religion that would rather see us burn anyway?

Nope. not playing.

Gee That's silly. If I claim I'm Elvis Presley, does that make me authentic?

O MY GOD ... worst analogy ever. I gotta post this in the Stupid Posts Thread.

1. Claiming to be a christian and claiming to be a singular real historical person is a non sequitur to the millionth degree.

holy sheep

It's the appeal to ridicule - a very special kind of strawman, one which is designed to sound as silly as possible. It's also highly revealing, in a Dunning-Kruger sense; the only way to make one's position seem even slightly rational by comparison is to concoct a position even more stupid.

(November 9, 2012 at 10:07 pm)Cinjin Wrote:

(November 9, 2012 at 7:15 pm)Truth Matters Wrote: Gee That's silly. If I claim I'm Elvis Presley, does that make me authentic?

O MY GOD ... worst analogy ever. I gotta post this in the Stupid Posts Thread.

1. Claiming to be a christian and claiming to be a singular real historical person is a non sequitur to the millionth degree.

holy sheep

OK, I'll grant the symmetry of the analogy is off.

Change Elvis to a 'Dallas Cowboy' or a 'Brain surgeon'


You need a real argument. You have none.

(November 9, 2012 at 11:24 pm)Truth Matters Wrote: OK, I'll grant the symmetry of the analogy is off.

Change Elvis to a 'Dallas Cowboy' or a 'Brain surgeon'


You need a real argument. You have none.

You're making it worse.

(November 9, 2012 at 11:24 pm)Truth Matters Wrote: OK, I'll grant the symmetry of the analogy is off.

Change Elvis to a 'Dallas Cowboy' or a 'Brain surgeon'


You need a real argument. You have none.

It's still off, Sir Chumpsworth. To be a Dallas Cowboy or a brain surgeon requires a significant amount of skill, learning and natural talent. There is a clear and incontestable standard for a Dallas Cowboy or a brain surgeon.

What makes a Christian legit? Ask a million Christians, get a million different answers. There's no official governing body of Christianity. There are no entrance exams. You do not need skill, learning or talent to be a Christian. There is no universally-recognized standard, because everybody interprets scripture to mean whatever they want and nobody can prove any of these interpretations to be THE correct one and the whole thing is based on fiction anyway. You can be an illiterate cumfart and still be a true Christian. I daresay that makes it a lot easier.

Claiming to be a Christian is like claiming to be a Journey fan. By what authority could one ever dispute either claim?

(November 10, 2012 at 12:27 am)Ryantology Wrote:

(November 9, 2012 at 11:24 pm)Truth Matters Wrote: OK, I'll grant the symmetry of the analogy is off.

Change Elvis to a 'Dallas Cowboy' or a 'Brain surgeon'


You need a real argument. You have none.

It's still off, Sir Chumpsworth. To be a Dallas Cowboy or a brain surgeon requires a significant amount of skill, learning and natural talent. There is a clear and incontestable standard for a Dallas Cowboy or a brain surgeon.

What makes a Christian legit? Ask a million Christians, get a million different answers. There's no official governing body of Christianity. There are no entrance exams. You do not need skill, learning or talent to be a Christian. There is no universally-recognized standard, because everybody interprets scripture to mean whatever they want and nobody can prove any of these interpretations to be THE correct one and the whole thing is based on fiction anyway. You can be an illiterate cumfart and still be a true Christian. I daresay that makes it a lot easier.

Claiming to be a Christian is like claiming to be a Journey fan. By what authority could one ever dispute either claim?

No, the claim does not require skill and talent. The authenticity rests in the objective validity - not the claim.

You are simply wrong to believe any claim of Christian constitutes an authentic claim. This should be obvious - even to a stupid Atheist fool, I daresay

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Hey Cinjin. Listen little fellow, you need to man up and make an argument if you wan't to play hardball. Feigning laughter and empty posturing isn't fooling anyone.

Quote:Nope, it's simply a fact that all claims are not valid.

Exactly how we feel about your bullshit. You could try providing actual evidence.


If you had any.

(November 10, 2012 at 1:19 am)Truth Matters Wrote: Hey Cinjin. Listen little fellow, you need to man up and make an argument if you wan't to play hardball. Feigning laughter and empty posturing isn't fooling anyone.

lol, I love it when the new people get all street tough and bad-assy.
Actually I really am lmao ... you're not even ready for T-ball around here, let alone "hardball."
Just do me a favor chief and make sure you keep your special helmet on ok big fella?

(November 9, 2012 at 9:53 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(November 9, 2012 at 9:24 pm)Truth Matters Wrote:

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What makes your random ass-hat belief that 'somebody cannot judge another's claim' binding and valid?
A person is perfectly entitled to believe a claim is phony or inauthentic.

Do you not judge whether claims are valid? Then what the hell are you doing here contending for your position?

Duhhh! .....Hypocrite!

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Tell you what, stick around for more than a day or two and see for yourself the standards that your brothers-in-Christ use to judge who is/was and who is/was not a True Christian ™ and we'll talk again.

Ok mister know-it-all please explain the standards I've used, you are implying you know aren't you. Hint: I've said some can be a real Christian and then just give it up, for what ever reason that made sense to them. However I would like to see from you what my criteria for being a real Christian is, because when it comes down to it the only thing that counts is what God knows.

Quote:The authenticity rests in the objective validity - not the claim.

Then please give us objective criteria to decide who is a Christian.