Cool.

I watched that video and, at first, I thought he was just kinda the opposite: a biased men's rights activist atheist. Honestly, that isn't really want I like to see as bias one way is just as annoying as bias the other (and, yes, I have seen some men's rights people turn into misogynistic pigs even if there are also quite a few people who believe in men's rights). Then I watched a few other videos and started to get him a little more.

Truth be told, though, as I go through Youtube, I notice the same theme popping up over and over again: most of the athests there are more than willing to speak out against Atheism+. The social activists tend to be the ones who actually praise them. Makes me wonder which would be more welcomed to them: a social activist Christian or an anti-feminist atheist? And if social activism is their primary perspective, perhaps they need to call themselves social activism+ or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoFCKlO_Z_k

I'm starting to have a really hard time difficult time telling the difference between fundamentalists either of the Christian or feminist variety. What do you think?

Yeah... I'm bothered by the insistence on reducing everything to a matter of privilege over there. For example, there was a thread on "police privilege"--imho, police corruption is a much better angle. If we're using the same analytic for both guys coming on too strong and police brutality... Bluh.

Also, the use of intersectionality. I remember reading an academic review-thingy (graciously linked by StephenT) that insisted how it was mistake to assume that different "axes of oppression" are simply additive (suckage of being a black woman = suckage of being black + suckage of being a woman) esp. because it's the study of how these different axes are co-constitutive of one another (e.g. iono whether this is intersectional canon, but the way black cops interact with black citizens is hugely determined by the way blacks and whites interact). But then some other A+ folks were circulating a blogpost that promoted intersectionality as the simple principle that axes of privilege/oppression are additive.

So as far as concretely changing the way gender roles function, I have more faith in the bronies atm. But there are some really good discussions over there... e.g. the user Setar kicked ass in some econ threads. I was converted to neoclassical econ by a Chicago school grad, and it's pretty refreshing to find canny criticisms of that stuff.

I like the Atheism+ Forum logo



It reminds me of a road winding its way up a hill towards a Cross at the top.




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(December 2, 2012 at 12:20 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I like the Atheism+ Forum logo



It reminds me of a road winding its way up a hill towards a Cross at the top.




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Except it takes a hard right before getting to the cross.

Oooh. Thats deep.
Hard right.

Is it deep? I just commented on where the road took off to. But we can just call it a plus sign if that'll make you feel better.

(December 2, 2012 at 12:48 am)Lion IRC Wrote: Oooh. Thats deep.
Hard right.

That's what she said.

This.

I just got suspended from Atheism Plus forum for a week... for this