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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:23 pm
On a tuesday when the moon is full standing on a bulls horn filled with quartz crystals, how about then, are we looking at permanent magic or just temporary magic?
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:25 pm
(January 5, 2013 at 3:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: "Can God make a rock so heavy he cannot lift it?" is a loaded question, and a logical fallacy....
Not really.
God could make Himself at One WITH the rock. Irresistible force meets immovable object.
A rock THAT big could be the size of the universe/multiverse. Then what?
Which direction is ''up'' when there is no up, down, left, right, forwards, backwards....etc. to move the rock.
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:25 pm
(January 6, 2013 at 11:21 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: (January 6, 2013 at 11:12 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Can he make himself not exist?
Do you mean temporarily or permanently?
When I'm committing "acts of the flesh." That would be convenient. Thank you.
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:29 pm
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God can do anything, but you know, not really....................
(sometimes, I think you need to have a little pow-wow with your many selves to decide which one is going to do the speaking at any given time)
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:30 pm
(January 6, 2013 at 11:25 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: (January 6, 2013 at 11:21 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Do you mean temporarily or permanently?
When I'm committing "acts of the flesh." That would be convenient. Thank you.
Well, the only reason I ask is because the metaphysical consequences of God doing that might mean that you also cease to exist and therefore you wouldnt be there to notice the nothingness in His and your absence.
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:32 pm
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Oh, those are the metaphysical consequences huh? So, a bit like Bill Gates, the most bro-worthy thing god can do for us would be to avoid doing stuff - in case we might metaphysically cease to exist as an unintended side effect. Here's to hoping he can continue his long tradition of not doing stuff then.
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:37 pm
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(January 6, 2013 at 11:30 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: (January 6, 2013 at 11:25 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: When I'm committing "acts of the flesh." That would be convenient. Thank you.
Well, the only reason I ask is because the metaphysical consequences of God doing that might mean that you also cease to exist and therefore you wouldnt be there to notice the nothingness in His and your absence.
Nonexistence is one of my turn-ons so that's not a problem.
Here's some of my nonexistence fetish art (NSFW)
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Nothing vs Something.
Thats a classical metaphysic.
Are we gonna tweek it a bit like Mr Woo Krauss?
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 11:56 pm
(January 6, 2013 at 11:25 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: (January 5, 2013 at 3:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: "Can God make a rock so heavy he cannot lift it?" is a loaded question, and a logical fallacy....
Not really.
God could make Himself at One WITH the rock. Irresistible force meets immovable object.
A rock THAT big could be the size of the universe/multiverse. Then what?
Which direction is ''up'' when there is no up, down, left, right, forwards, backwards....etc. to move the rock.
Look we already covered this. He can cast "Bull's Strength" on himself and lift the rock that requires a Strength of Infinite +2 to lift. We have video footage and everything.
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RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 7, 2013 at 12:09 am
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Caught him LARPing did we? Seems like the type. Almighty Lord of the Parking Lot and all that jazz.
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