(January 8, 2013 at 12:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You were obese, so? It certainly is not good to get past a certain weight, but saying " I did it this way" cannot apply to everyone and should not apply to everyone because everyone is different.

The best thing is for those who need to lose weight for medical reasons or simply want better form is to listen to a doctor, not you.

So you are saying that I have a different digestion to other humans? It's true, I can speak about what has worked for me- but there are others who eat 80/10/10- many, many professional athletes eat on a similar page to what I eat. So if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

(January 8, 2013 at 12:37 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: Well, if sugar makes you fat- I should be obese. You know, some times I eat up to 7000 calories, so, it's not really true. I mean, it's a theory yeah, but if I am getting consistently good blood tests, I am doing something right.

You are right, I am trying to get more vegetables in- recently I have been chomping on a bag of carrots- and occasionally bags of spinach, but it's hard to get used to the taste.

Sugar does make you fat. Your body converts unused sugars to fat for later use. If you aren't fat from eating mainly carbs, that fat is going somewhere, my guess would be you have a fatty liver and fat deposits around your other internal organs. Sugars are more easily converted by the body to fat than protein, which is why so many weight-loss diets are relatively high in protein.
It's a simple formula. Calories in should equal calories out. If more calories are taken in than spent, the excess is stored for later use as fat. If more calories are spent than taken in, you are burning reserves.
You are young, but it will likely catch up with you in time, unless you have that body type that just doesn't get fat. They still have fat, it's just internal rather than surface fat, which is actually the more dangerous in terms of cancer, heart disease, and diabetes risks.
How often are these "consistently good blood tests"? Your annual check up doesn't count, but it would be a good baseline for going in once a month and checking.

Are you convinced you're the most special snowflake?

How long will you consume that much juice before you realize how horrible it is for your teeth?

(January 8, 2013 at 12:52 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: So you are saying that I have a different digestion to other humans? It's true, I can speak about what has worked for me- but there are others who eat 80/10/10- many, many professional athletes eat on a similar page to what I eat. So if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

I'd just point out that professional athletes get about 10 times the exercise you do on a daily basis. They're running their bodies like finely tuned race cars. You're filling your '70's Buick with the same fuel, it won't mean you get the same results or performance.

(January 8, 2013 at 12:52 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 12:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You were obese, so? It certainly is not good to get past a certain weight, but saying " I did it this way" cannot apply to everyone and should not apply to everyone because everyone is different.

The best thing is for those who need to lose weight for medical reasons or simply want better form is to listen to a doctor, not you.

So you are saying that I have a different digestion to other humans? It's true, I can speak about what has worked for me- but there are others who eat 80/10/10- many, many professional athletes eat on a similar page to what I eat. So if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

So again, if you want to be an idiot and take the advice of those outside the medical profession, you can. But just because someone has the ability to jump off a cliff doesn't mean you should follow them.

Athletes are not super human and can and do have problems with body dissmorphea that can cause them to take on very unhealthy diets and to take drugs that ultimately might short term give them that burst in competition but destroy their bodies long term.

If you lost weight because you needed to, then good for you. If you lose weight simply because you want a better looking body, that is fine too. But people in doing both can take it to extremes as well, including athletes.

Listen to a doctor, that is the only rational and reasonable thing to do. Don't chase after what others want or think you should be.

(January 8, 2013 at 12:56 pm)festive1 Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 12:37 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: Well, if sugar makes you fat- I should be obese. You know, some times I eat up to 7000 calories, so, it's not really true. I mean, it's a theory yeah, but if I am getting consistently good blood tests, I am doing something right.

You are right, I am trying to get more vegetables in- recently I have been chomping on a bag of carrots- and occasionally bags of spinach, but it's hard to get used to the taste.

Sugar does make you fat. Your body converts unused sugars to fat for later use. If you aren't fat from eating mainly carbs, that fat is going somewhere, my guess would be you have a fatty liver and fat deposits around your other internal organs. Sugars are more easily converted by the body to fat than protein, which is why so many weight-loss diets are relatively high in protein.
It's a simple formula. Calories in should equal calories out. If more calories are taken in than spent, the excess is stored for later use as fat. If more calories are spent than taken in, you are burning reserves.
You are young, but it will likely catch up with you in time, unless you have that body type that just doesn't get fat. They still have fat, it's just internal rather than surface fat, which is actually the more dangerous in terms of cancer, heart disease, and diabetes risks.
How often are these "consistently good blood tests"? Your annual check up doesn't count, but it would be a good baseline for going in once a month and checking.

Well, again, that's the theory... but it's working fine for me and others.

Dr. Doug Graham has probably eaten more fruit than anyone in the world, and is almost 60:



I do quarterly blood tests.

Looks to me like he puts a lot of work into exercising various parts of his body.

(January 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm)festive1 Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 12:52 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: So you are saying that I have a different digestion to other humans? It's true, I can speak about what has worked for me- but there are others who eat 80/10/10- many, many professional athletes eat on a similar page to what I eat. So if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

I'd just point out that professional athletes get about 10 times the exercise you do on a daily basis. They're running their bodies like finely tuned race cars. You're filling your '70's Buick with the same fuel, it won't mean you get the same results or performance.

So you shouldn't eat what professional athletes/people at the prime of health eat?

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(January 8, 2013 at 1:04 pm)Annik Wrote: Looks to me like he puts a lot of work into exercising various parts of his body.

Yes, he is very strong guy, he is almost 60 and can do a 'muscle up' (youtube it if you don't know what it is). I enjoy cardio mostly.

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(January 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 12:52 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: So you are saying that I have a different digestion to other humans? It's true, I can speak about what has worked for me- but there are others who eat 80/10/10- many, many professional athletes eat on a similar page to what I eat. So if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

So again, if you want to be an idiot and take the advice of those outside the medical profession, you can. But just because someone has the ability to jump off a cliff doesn't mean you should follow them.

Athletes are not super human and can and do have problems with body dissmorphea that can cause them to take on very unhealthy diets and to take drugs that ultimately might short term give them that burst in competition but destroy their bodies long term.

If you lost weight because you needed to, then good for you. If you lose weight simply because you want a better looking body, that is fine too. But people in doing both can take it to extremes as well, including athletes.

Listen to a doctor, that is the only rational and reasonable thing to do. Don't chase after what others want or think you should be.

You have to be extreme if you want to win.

(January 8, 2013 at 1:05 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm)festive1 Wrote: I'd just point out that professional athletes get about 10 times the exercise you do on a daily basis. They're running their bodies like finely tuned race cars. You're filling your '70's Buick with the same fuel, it won't mean you get the same results or performance.

So you shouldn't eat what professional athletes/people at the prime of health eat?

Unless your output is that of a professional athlete, then no, you shouldn't eat what a pro does.

(January 8, 2013 at 1:09 pm)festive1 Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 1:05 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: So you shouldn't eat what professional athletes/people at the prime of health eat?

Unless your output is that of a professional athlete, then no, you shouldn't eat what a pro does.

Well, because I am eating such low fat- and getting in so much energy, I feel that I can't not exercise- I love exercising really, it's not a hassle. I wouldn't have that, if I was eating normally. Even if I wasn't exercising, I would still look okay.