You are awesome though Vae

(February 1, 2013 at 3:36 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You are awesome though Vae

Licker of boots!

Nah, this is you, bro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS6-vI70oc0

Mmm, Brutal Legend flashback...

So just a recap: ummmmmmmmm...

Is god or is he not, Omnipotent?

Seriously.

It's like pullin teeth.

(February 3, 2013 at 5:11 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Is god or is he not, Omnipotent?

The Christian God is omnipotent, yes. This is never contended, as logically bankrupt challenges to that don't constitute real challenges.

(February 3, 2013 at 5:29 am)fr0d0 Wrote:

(February 3, 2013 at 5:11 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Is god or is he not, Omnipotent?

The Christian God is omnipotent, yes. This is never contended, as logically bankrupt challenges to that don't constitute real challenges.

What are these logically bankrupt challenges?

For me, and mind you I'm not all that logical.. One thing that stood out was always how god could know what was going to happen before it happened, yet fall 'victim' to the fall of man and the consequences he's paid so dearly for thereafter.

(February 3, 2013 at 5:33 am)missluckie26 Wrote: What are these logically bankrupt challenges?

Well if you read the thread those were explained. Can God lift a rock too heavy for God to lift. This is a contradiction not a challenge.

(February 3, 2013 at 5:33 am)missluckie26 Wrote: One thing that stood out was always how god could know what was going to happen before it happened, yet fall 'victim' to the fall of man and the consequences he's paid so dearly for thereafter.

God is timeless. His omnipotence spans time. Your judgement is time specific.

If God was bound by time, if he hadn't already seen the start and end of this universe, then we might have reason to question his actions within linear time.

I read the thread thanks. It's my fiancees, I read all of his threads.
Moreover I'm just trying to get an overview so that we can move on from there rather than make anyone new to the thread reread
countless pages of contradictions and insults, in order to achieve the basic principle of this post which is answering the
question, is god omnipotent? Or perhaps I'm appealing for some logical thinkers who have read the thread, to break it down for me
and anyone who may read this. Obviously that won't be including you, as you're too concerned with being degrading like usual.
And there's far more contentions with gods' omnipotence than the rock lifting experiment, you're selling your opposing side short, like usual.

(February 3, 2013 at 6:00 am)missluckie26 Wrote: you're too concerned with being degrading like usual.

Please show me how in my well meant reply to you I was being degrading!!

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(February 3, 2013 at 6:00 am)missluckie26 Wrote: And there's far more contentions with gods' omnipotence than the rock lifting experiment, you're selling your opposing side short, like usual.

You asked for an explanation of logical contradiction, and I provided you with one. I'm sorry not to have gone through every example in this thread. All of the opposition fails likewise, and the onus is upon the opposition to come up with a working challenge. If I knew of one, I would tell you. The one above is perhaps the best one there is. I'm afraid you would be asking me for evidence of something imaginary: a logical proof challenging the notion of omnipotence.

Because if I read the thread, I'd know the arguments.
Did I read the thread?
Yes.
Did you ask if I read the thread?
No.
Did you tell me that if I read the thread my question would
be answered?
Yes you did.
Does that degrade the value of my question for the mere fact that I asked it?
Yes.

At the very least you were being assumptive, like usual.