(April 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm)stone Wrote: God creates something out of nothing by speaking the words, let there be light. You don't know what all that entails. If you claim to, then you have some kind of God complex, where you think that you are more smarter than anything that there is on the planet. When the reality is, you are only a monkey. This is where you are now, a little monkey that thinks he knows everything and is only going to drive himself over a cliff.

True wisdom will come from being humble and understanding that there are many things in this world that you will never understand.

So in other words...magic.

Did I say magic? I meant "supernatural".

(April 9, 2013 at 9:20 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: What material?

Science 101 is down the hall.

Materialism isn't the subject here. You're transposing a modern materialist world view onto a non materialist one.

(April 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote:

(April 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm)stone Wrote: God creates something out of nothing by speaking the words, let there be light. You don't know what all that entails. If you claim to, then you have some kind of God complex, where you think that you are more smarter than anything that there is on the planet. When the reality is, you are only a monkey. This is where you are now, a little monkey that thinks he knows everything and is only going to drive himself over a cliff.

True wisdom will come from being humble and understanding that there are many things in this world that you will never understand.

So in other words...magic.

Did I say magic? I meant "supernatural".

Magic is something used by witches and sorcerers. Mostly today, smoke and mirrors. Which are you, the smoke or the mirror?

(April 9, 2013 at 6:03 pm)stone Wrote:

(April 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: So in other words...magic.

Did I say magic? I meant "supernatural".

Magic is something used by witches and sorcerers. Mostly today, smoke and mirrors. Which are you, the smoke or the mirror?

Gosh, ouch. I'm hurt.

So it is "supernatural" then. And exactly how is that distinguishable from magic?

(April 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm)stone Wrote: Is it more ignorant to think you know everything or to understand that there are things in this world that we don't understand? Which is the fool?

Yes, it would be foolish to think you know everything and equally foolish to avoid inquiring into all things.

(April 9, 2013 at 6:14 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(April 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm)stone Wrote: Is it more ignorant to think you know everything or to understand that there are things in this world that we don't understand? Which is the fool?

Yes, it would be foolish to think you know everything and equally foolish to avoid inquiring into all things.

Chad, I am mad at you for making me give you kudos TWICE in a single day!

WTF??

@stone


Well this just proves your whole analogy to be bullshit.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D0YRm5Os1uQ

stone Wrote:Your 1st problem is that you don't understand that there are things in this world that you don't understand.

Your first problem is that when you don't understand something, you make up answers and call it 'truth'.

@Chad

No. Regardless of what you suppose this totality to contain, you cannot avoid the fact that change is a product of time, and time itself is contingent upon the very existance of this universe.

I ask you again...

If the bible posits that God created the universe...

Which inherently gave time meaning and existence as time and the universe are one in the same.


How is it that the God you defend existed in a state of change before change was possible?

Come on!

You're better than this!

Don't make up guess works to conform to your beliefs.

What is this telling you?

It's obvious...admit it!!!! Lol


If you take the God part out of it, it's merely seeking understanding for yet another phenomena that also has an explanation.

You don't have to just keep jamming god into the equation where he obviously doesn't fit!

I believe you're smarter than that.

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@fr0d0

(Today 14:20)Texas Sailor Wrote:
What material?

"Science 101 is down the hall.

Materialism isn't the subject here. You're transposing a modern materialist world view onto a non materialist one."

Don't change the subject home slice

I'm applying logic, combined with a modern understanding of scientific knowledge to a fairy tale. You can call it whatever you want, and I can point out your excuses for avoiding the objection every time, but until you have something intelligent to add to the discussion, I'd recommend that you just continue feeding Wooters kudos. Your responses are distractions to others that wish to gain understanding and actually display the intellectual capacity to achieve some.

(April 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: Chad, I am mad at you for making me give you kudos TWICE in a single day!...WTF??

I'm a kudos whore...what can I say?