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RE: Proving God Existence
April 27, 2013 at 11:24 am
(April 27, 2013 at 3:51 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: You don't see the power of this proof
I don't need to prove that, because they are AXIOMS
Is that your new escape hatch whenever you can't prove shit? You just demand that the stuff you can't prove is axiomatic? Well then, Muslim Scholar is wrong. It's an AXIOM.
So there. End of discussion.
Quote:We (humans) defined the words Creator & Creature to be mutually exclusive
What? Do you even read what you write before you post it?
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 28, 2013 at 2:02 am
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(April 27, 2013 at 11:24 am)Esquilax Wrote: Is that your new escape hatch whenever you can't prove shit? You just demand that the stuff you can't prove is axiomatic? Well then, Muslim Scholar is wrong. It's an AXIOM. It is a fact not an escape
I think you are tried very hard by your own to refute it and failed!
So you are saying any crap to defend your religion (Atheism)
(April 27, 2013 at 9:00 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: The universe is currently dynamic because it is in its infancy.
Eventually it will not be dynamic.
Time is a dimension as much as left right up and down. You live in 4 dimensional space time. This is irrelevant to the proof
Quote:Because the universe is analogue the space between any two distances is infinitely dividable. To cover any distance then would take an infinity , therefore movement is impossible.
See I can talk bollocks too.
Irrelevant as well (beside that it has no proof)
Quote:Quote:Then to prove the necessity for a creator
You make a lot of assumptions without providing evidence.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
There is no assertion in that, It is proved by contradiction as well
Quote:So much stupid.
Do you mean that you are too stupid to understand.!
(April 27, 2013 at 8:36 am)paulpablo Wrote: Ok so now all you have to do is show me when all of humanity universally agreed that a creature and a god are mutually exclusive, In fact there is no need for that
I can define the terms (within the proof) then use them
The proof will prove the validity of the statements using the terms that I used
Quote:Show me where you proved god cannot reflect light,
It depends on your definition of Object & Image
All images that we know are light reflections from objects
Objects are constructed from materials
As proved God is not an Object, so an Image is not applicable to him
Quote: and explain yourself when you say mental images aren't images they are just memories, because I disagreed with you, I said they don't have to be memories.
Can you give an example of a mental image which is not a memory?
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 28, 2013 at 2:13 am
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(April 28, 2013 at 2:02 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Can you give an example of a mental image which is not a memory?
Me fucking your mother nine months before your birth.
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 28, 2013 at 2:30 am
(April 28, 2013 at 2:02 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (April 27, 2013 at 11:24 am)Esquilax Wrote: Is that your new escape hatch whenever you can't prove shit? You just demand that the stuff you can't prove is axiomatic? Well then, Muslim Scholar is wrong. It's an AXIOM. It is a fact not an escape
I think you are tried very hard by your own to refute it and failed!
So you are saying any crap to defend your religion (Atheism)
(April 27, 2013 at 9:00 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: The universe is currently dynamic because it is in its infancy.
Eventually it will not be dynamic.
Time is a dimension as much as left right up and down. You live in 4 dimensional space time. This is irrelevant to the proof
Quote:Because the universe is analogue the space between any two distances is infinitely dividable. To cover any distance then would take an infinity , therefore movement is impossible.
See I can talk bollocks too.
Irrelevant as well (beside that it has no proof)
Quote:You make a lot of assumptions without providing evidence.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
There is no assertion in that, It is proved by contradiction as well
Quote:So much stupid.
Do you mean that you are too stupid to understand.!
(April 27, 2013 at 8:36 am)paulpablo Wrote: Ok so now all you have to do is show me when all of humanity universally agreed that a creature and a god are mutually exclusive, In fact there is no need for that
I can define the terms (within the proof) then use them
The proof will prove the validity of the statements using the terms that I used
Quote:Show me where you proved god cannot reflect light,
It depends on your definition of Object & Image
All images that we know are light reflections from objects
Objects are constructed from materials
As proved God is not an Object, so an Image is not applicable to him
Quote: and explain yourself when you say mental images aren't images they are just memories, because I disagreed with you, I said they don't have to be memories.
Can you give an example of a mental image which is not a memory?
Dude! You are delusional.
You keep stating your book of fairy tails is factual, and you do not need to produce any proof. That is not how you convert people with a logical and scientific mind.
I have the mental image of me fucking your wife with you fucking that goat out back on the farm. Poor Goat!
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 28, 2013 at 6:08 am
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You just said the terms god and living thing (creature) were mutually exclusive because we humans defined the terms to be mutually exclusive, this is a totally false premise for so many reasons.
1 Not everyone defines god to be unable to become a living creature.
2 I have no belief in god at all, each definition is absurd as the last, you saying he lives outside of space and time while at the same time as talking to a man on earth is no more or less ridiculous to me than him actually being a man on earth while being a god.
3 There hasn't been a time in recorded history when everyone on earth has agreed on the premise of what god is, so this completely throws out the idea of this god you come up with as being an axiom, an axiom is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy, this has never been the case for god, or gods.
Mental images that aren't a memory.
1 I just closed my eyes and got a mental image of a centipede wearing a victorian top hat, tipping it to me and saying " evenin guvnor" it's strange but I don't think this has ever happened so is therefore not a memory.
2 I have taken acid, mushrooms and marijuana and seen many mental images of things that weren't there, nor where they a memory.
Quote:All images that we know are light reflections from objects
Objects are constructed from materials
As proved God is not an Object, so an Image is not applicable to him
All images we know are not light reflections from objects as I just stated before, you can take drugs and see images which are not light reflected from objects but mental images, also the imagination can create images which are not light reflected from objects, this is how a lot of art work is created.
Show me how you proved god is not an object.
Explain to me with genuine intellectual honesty how you can use the laws of physics to prove god cannot reflect light but then forget about the laws of physics when it comes to believing god can turn a stick into a snake, create floods and impregnate virgins while being outside of time and space and not being effect things such as light here in the world of time and space.
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 28, 2013 at 6:24 am
1:The chances of he universe existing 100%
We know this because we are in it.
2:The universe contains everything that exists.
3:God is said to exist outside the universe.
4: therefore god does not exist: see 2
I have proved conclusively that there is no god.
No-one can refute my proofs.
I need not supply evidence for my proofs are just so god damn good.
HA HA I WIN.
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 29, 2013 at 2:42 am
(April 28, 2013 at 6:24 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: 1:The chances of he universe existing 100%
We know this because we are in it.
2:The universe contains everything that exists. Can you prove that?
Quote:3:God is said to exist outside the universe.
Contradiction with 2
Quote:4: therefore god does not exist: see 2
I have proved conclusively that there is no god.
No-one can refute my proofs.
I need not supply evidence for my proofs are just so god damn good.
Your proof proves that you don't know anything about proofs.
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 29, 2013 at 2:55 am
(April 29, 2013 at 2:42 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (April 28, 2013 at 6:24 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: 1:The chances of he universe existing 100%
We know this because we are in it.
2:The universe contains everything that exists. Can you prove that?
Quote:3:God is said to exist outside the universe.
Contradiction with 2
Quote:4: therefore god does not exist: see 2
I have proved conclusively that there is no god.
No-one can refute my proofs.
I need not supply evidence for my proofs are just so god damn good.
Your proof proves that you don't know anything about proofs.
Quote:HA HA I WIN.
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One, you are afraid of this HELL.
Two, you tried posting this Mathematical Simulation as proof. No, you have to use math to describe your observations. You have proved nothing, as you have yet to observe anything!
Lastly, if this is all the proof you need. Then published it, win Noble Prize, donate, and FTW!
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 29, 2013 at 4:10 am
You still haven't replied to anything I mentioned, God not being an axiom or being a word with any definition which would be generally accepted as true with no controversy.
Images not always being light reflecting off objects.
God can never be an object.
And the rest of it, which I'm tired of retyping over and over.
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RE: Proving God Existence
April 29, 2013 at 5:44 am
oh, FFS...
time, time is not on your side!!!
-If time has a start, you cannot say anything about causation prior to time's existence. Cause and effect requires time... your G=0 is the best answer.... instead, since you want G to be non-zero, you try to define another kind of time, name it p, and say it attests for the dynamic nature of G... what does dynamic mean, here? -.-'
-If time doesn't have a start, then your proof crumbles away.
It all stems from your faulty definition of time as a series of finite events...
There, your "proof" is refuted. enjoy.
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