I love the argument, but I'm much too direct. I simply shove my dick in his/her mouth. When their eyes betray a bit of surprise I simply shrug my shoulders and remind them that nobody's getting pregnant from the engagement, so no abortion concerns.

The argument fails because it compares apples to oranges. God gives to each person an allotted time on earth, regardless of how long or short. If God cuts your time short who are you to complain? Your life belongs to God. You should be thankful for whatever time you get no matter how short. That is different from you taking the life of another. Unlike God, you didn't give them life. Instead you have destroyed something that wasn't yours.

(May 21, 2013 at 10:11 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Why, just now when I clicked on this topic and saw gilgamesh was the last poster, did I think, "oh boy. Someone's about to get trolled"?

I was right, and I have the pleasure of being the one trolled!

Thanks gilgamesh!

But I'm serious. Do you think, for example, a group of women should have more say over abortion law than a group of men? Why? It's the exact same either way. It's a group of people making a decision for other people.

Let's just say human beings shouldn't be making decisions for other human beings.

Who are you arguing with? Where did I ever say I thought anyone should be making decisions for others? I said the opposite of that.

(May 21, 2013 at 11:19 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: But I'm serious. Do you think, for example, a group of women should have more say over abortion law than a group of men? Why? It's the exact same either way. It's a group of people making a decision for other people.

Let's just say human beings shouldn't be making decisions for other human beings.

Do you think pro-choicers want to force people to have abortions or something? It's only pro-lifers who want to make decisions for others. As long as abortion is legal, we are free to decide fot ourselves. Take that away, and we are forced to either potentially have a child we don't want, or get a potentially fatal illegal abortion.

And, you know, your post makes no sense because women are... women, and women are the only people who are affected by any potential abortion laws.

I typically disagree with abortion simply because I define person-hood at conception and I usually hold the moral that killing is wrong. I don't see how anyone with a comprehensive knowledge of human prenatal development could support abortion to be honest.

To the argument, "abortion = bad but abandonment = better = hypocrisy." I would ask the question, what if the person that was killed developed a cure for cancer and you developed cancer? What if instead of being aborted, that same person lived but didn't go through life with their biological parents? Which of these is the better alternative for them and you? I think it would be agreed that life is better than death, even a life separated from your mother and/or father.

To the argument, "Pro-life individuals want to make decisions for others." I would say, this isn't true. Not for me at least. I can't represent all pro-life individuals because I am not many. I would ask the question, "What if someone had the power to legally end your life without your consent?" Would you be opposed to the ending of your life or would you simply say it's their choice as to whether they think your life should end? Any rational and sane person would respectfully tell them to put the fucking knife away because you have the right to your life.

The voice of the prenatal human is unheard and therefore we cannot ask them if they would like to live, but the question that must be asked is, "If you were in the position of the soon to be aborted child, would you want to live or die?"

Quote:I don't see how anyone with a comprehensive knowledge of human prenatal development could support abortion to be honest.

There are too many people on the planet now and we do not need more.

(May 22, 2013 at 1:46 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:I don't see how anyone with a comprehensive knowledge of human prenatal development could support abortion to be honest.

There are too many people on the planet now and we do not need more.

All the more reason to invest in planetary colonization!!! Let's go Star Trek on this shiz!

(May 21, 2013 at 9:11 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: So abortion = bad, but keeping it then giving it away like an ugly sweater you got for Christmas so they have to live their entire life knowing their own mother didn't even want them = perfectly fine? Lol

Abortion is better for a kid then adoption? Sorry but that makes no sense.

(May 21, 2013 at 9:18 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Also, who are you to "justify" what a woman does with her own body?

I said that it's just my opinion. Women can do to their bodies whatever they want for all I care but I don't think that a child in womb is her body.

What about people who are against abortion but not Christians?