We've all been there at some point. Hell, I used to be a 9/11 truther. Imagine how I feel.

These days I rely on the media to report events, and then I go and look all over for the details. I never trust one source. I find that reddit's /r/news section usually has a lot of similar people posting updates and corrections to reports in the comments.

I'm probably going to have to start hitting up reddit more often.

Also, a Truther?

...Yeah, I can imagine that might feel pretty bad. XD

Skittles and Arizona iced tea does not make Purple Drank. It requires Jolly Ranchers and Mountain Dew or Sprite. If that was Trayvon's intention, he was doing it wrong.

And neither Purple Drank or marijuana are dangerous drugs that cause someone to be more violent or hostile. They're both more "chill out" drugs. Just for getting high, no more or less. What's wrong with that?

I fight too. Not MMA, but I'm considering it. What does that have to do with anything? I guess that Trayvon knew what he was doing when he started beating on Zimmerman? Maybe an explanation as to why Zimmerman apparently couldn't defend himself from a kid without shooting him? Zimmerman should have left Trayvon the fuck alone and let the police handle the situation. By following Trayvon he was choosing to create a situation which resulted in his getting beat up. I kinda feel like if you fuck with someone who knows MMA, you should receive a beat down. If Trayvon knew MMA he could have easily killed Zimmerman easily and quickly. Instead he just broke his nose. Don't delude yourself into thinking Zimmerman was fighting for his life. I'll concede that Zimmerman might have thought he was, though.

(July 14, 2013 at 8:07 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: And neither Purple Drank or marijuana are dangerous drugs that cause someone to be more violent or hostile. They're both more "chill out" drugs. Just for getting high, no more or less. What's wrong with that?

I think the main reason that was pointed out is that the media were painting Treyvon as some innocent kid who could never hurt a fly. In reality, he was an active drug user, had received three suspensions from school that year, and was found with a quantity of women's jewelry in his bag, along with a screwdriver that the school police investigator thought was a burglary tool.

Martin was also taller than Zimmerman by several inches, and had a healthy weight for his age / height. Zimmerman on the other hand was overweight and out of shape.

Well, actually, there's a lot of ways to make purple drank, from what I'm reading. Those aren't actually necessary components; they're just the flavor additives. Technically, all you need is the cough syrup to actually have the effect. The drink and the sugary additive negate the flavor [given how much cough syrup has to be ingested to get the effects, you need to sweeten the flavor pretty heavily if you wanna be able to get it down] of the cough syrup. You could do it with coffee and malt-balls, technically. I don't think that the drugs themselves influenced him or were a part of the incident itself. Purple Drank is actually noted to have effects very similar to PCP. And last I checked, nobody calls PCP a "chill out" drug...

Quote:It is a cough suppressant in small doses, but in large doses it can result in a disassociative state, with hallucinations, similar to that produced by PCP or ketamine.

Quoted from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_drank#Ingredients

The overall point there is just that he's not quite as innocent as the media portrayed him as. Apparently, he had been expelled for truancy issues and there'd been a bunch of burglaries in the area. Previously, someone in a hoody matching the description of Trayvon's had been witnessed peering into the windows of an empty house, and later that day the house was burglarized. Then that night, Zimmerman reports seeing Trayvon peering into the windows of houses, and it's mentioned in his phone transcript with the dispatcher.

The thing was, too, is that Zimmerman stopped following Zimmerman and returned to his car, again as the phone records show. After the dispatcher informs him that they don't need him to follow, he returns to his vehicle. Zimmerman loses sight of Trayvon. He lost sight of him, and returned to his vehicle, and then the incident following happens a stone's throw away from Zimmerman's vehicle.

Zimmerman wasn't pursuing Trayvon when the fight started, and that's where we've been mistaken. Trayvon came back after Zimmerman had retreated to his vehicle to wait for the cops. Zimmerman even said where he would meet the cops at, and that that was where he was headed.

We can't even pretend like Trayvon was being pursued anymore, because the transcripts simply do not show that, they show the opposite.

(July 13, 2013 at 10:22 pm)TaraJo Wrote: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-g...1757.story

Tonight is going to be a very bad night to be a police officer in Florida.

I suspect this will not be the case.

Whether riots are seemly for a justifiable cause or not, they are typically not entirely spontaneous, but prepared for and organized by those with some political agenda.

It is not politically expedient for the black community to be seen to be lawless when a black president in the White House, and it is particularly not expedient for the black community to be seen as arguably picking a fight against the hispanic community right now when most black probably identify republicans as the most entrenched long term threat to their future welfare.

(July 14, 2013 at 7:43 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Trust the media to be untrustworthy. *shakes his head*

Ugh. Now I feel like absolute shit for what I said earlier.

That feels when you realize you got duped by the media...the same thing everyone's been saying for years is biased, sensationalist bullshit, and you yourself have stated is exactly that.

I wouldn't feel bad, If I were you - you should be commended for examining the evidence and having the good sense (courage) to change your opinion on the matter.

As a side note about the media - There is (rather coincidentally a new skittles commercial out that uses and 'addiction' theme)

(July 14, 2013 at 5:51 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:

(July 14, 2013 at 2:20 pm)A Theist Wrote: Following somebody isn't a crime and it's no justification to pin someone down and start wailing away on him...

Try following me arround in my neighbourhood during the night. You will regret it, if you are still capable of regreting things after I am finished with you.

I bet a black guy following a "suspicious white" wouldn`t be capable of defending himself in a court.


Anyway, the entire case just shows how racist the country still is when a black person with a hoody is considered to be "suspicious".

Quote:Try following me arround in my neighbourhood during the night. You will regret it, if you are still capable of regreting things after I am finished with you.

Lol...I'd love to see you try sometime...hopefully the doctors at the emergency room won't have too hard a time pulling your head out of your ass...

C'mon gentlemen, let's not get into Internet Tough Guy territory, here...nobody wins those imaginary pissing contests, and in fact everyone who reads them loses.

(July 14, 2013 at 10:32 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: C'mon gentlemen, let's not get into Internet Tough Guy territory, here...nobody wins those imaginary pissing contests, and in fact everyone who reads them loses.