So Drich, are you going to admit that you were wrong in your foxholes claim, now that you've been provided with multiple examples to the contrary? Or will you keep trundling on without ever accepting an error?

Quote:I love it when new people just jump in the middle of the conversation and just assume the points they bring up have not be discussed yet... Oh wait no I don't. I actually hate that, that is why I am going to tell you to go back and re read what has already been written if you want an answer to your question.

Yeah, I've read your brain droppings. So what? Your position evolved from snide bullshit about atheists staring down the barrel of eternity (complete with a too-eager offer to pray for someone to get a ghastly disease to test the hypothesis that everyone is as childishly terrified of their mortality as the religious nut) to a grudging acknowledgement that only atheists really know if they remain atheists in foxholes. What do you want -- a cookie? A ribbon?

Meanwhile, my observation stands. You don't know a damn thing about the soldiers in the picture, yet you are quick to assume that they are posers because (surprise!) they were in a relatively safe spot when they had the picture taken.

(August 28, 2013 at 1:01 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Drich has no idea what an IDF attack is then.

Drippy has no idea about many things.

(August 28, 2013 at 2:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So Drich, are you going to admit that you were wrong in your foxholes claim, now that you've been provided with multiple examples to the contrary? Or will you keep trundling on without ever accepting an error?

Drich would never think any shit thrown by him on behalf of christianity to be wrong, so long as the shit sticks, seems to stick, or seems to him that it ought to stick regardless of whether it actually sticks or not.

In this sense he is the essence of the christian morality.

(August 28, 2013 at 8:42 am)Drich Wrote: What are you a nazi? When did "freedom" mean we all must think as you do?

It means we can all say what we want, it doesn't mean you get to be free from criticism or animosity.

(August 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Drich Wrote: When did serving this country entitle you to more "freedom" than anyone else.

Never. It's just a fact that a lot of Americans have a tendency to get a bit riled when you smear the troops. If you think it's OK with God to do it, that's your business, just as it's our business to respond to your allegations about them.

(August 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Drich Wrote: If you are going to wave the flag and soap box about what you've done to give me the right to say that I think then, have the courtesy to let me speak. Or be labeled a hypocrite.

No one is stopping you from speaking, you pathetic whiner.

(August 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Drich Wrote: To say every man and woman who has ever served in the military is a hero is a lie.

It's factually incorrect and no one here has claimed they are. But I can see why you'd want to make up something to go after rather than deal with what we're really saying.

(August 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Drich Wrote: There are pretenders out there who do not deserve the same honors as our combat vets, and when they take those honors or repersent the selfs as the honorable men and women who actually put themselves in harms way then something needs to be said, the line needs to be redrawn, again to seperate posers from the actually men and women who serve on the front lines.

You can't identify such people by glancing at a photograph. The charitable thing would be to assume they're truthful until proven otherwise, but clearly, being charitable is not something you value.

(August 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Drich Wrote: Not the support troops do not deserve honor or distinction. They are not to be held in the same light even amongst themselves as those who actually fight and die for this country. To do so robs the men who have fought and died of the honor due them. They can not speak against this dishonorable practice, so I will.. Even if it ruffles the feathers of a few a-holes who think their service to this country calls for the personal worship of every man woman and child, no matter what they did.
(Good or bad)

The 'dishonorable practice' is something you made up. You saw something and didn't like the implications of it being true so you made up a story about the people in the photo entirely out of whole cloth to justify calling them 'd-bags'. Now THAT is a dishonorable practice.

(August 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Drich Wrote: The simple fact is not every man who serves this country is a hero. Some are the exact opposite.

You can't tell who isn't a hero by their photograph.

(August 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Drich Wrote: To stereotype everyone on the works and actions of a few is not right.

Even if they're not heroes, they volunteered to serve their country in any capacity required of them. They all deserve the benefit of the doubt until there's actual evidence they have failed in their duty.

(August 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Drich Wrote: In that way all secondary troops should be willing to set a place of honor above and beyond the honor due them for those combat troops who stand between them and the bad guys as well, not take the honor from those men and award it to themselves.

You don't know they're secondary troops. You made that up, for the sole purpose of allowing yourself to feel entitled to disrespect them. Look where you find yourself: advocating for a presumption of guilt for soldiers on the basis of 'they can't all be heroes'. What has brought you here is an inability to admit you're wrong about anything.

And someone who can't admit when they're wrong should not be trusted to say the truth because they can't be trusted to know it if it bites them on the ass.

(August 28, 2013 at 2:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So Drich, are you going to admit that you were wrong in your foxholes claim, now that you've been provided with multiple examples to the contrary? Or will you keep trundling on without ever accepting an error?

I think his going from "everyone prays when faced with death" to "only the atheist truly knows" is the closest we'll ever get to an admittance of incorrectness.

I have to admit, however, that I am impressed that we even got that. Baby steps are still progress, you know.

How did vaccine denying church thread turned into atheists in the military?

(August 28, 2013 at 3:54 pm)wwjs Wrote: How did vaccine denying church thread turned into atheists in the military?

We went from talk about vaccines and diseases to Drich wanting to pray for us to get AIDS to his claim that everyone prays when faced with death which inevitably led to the "no atheists in foxholes" bullshit.

(August 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: You don't know they're secondary troops.

It wouldn't matter much to me if they were. In modern warfare, the battle lines aren't clear, and people in the "rear" come under fire as well. In the first Gulf War, Iraq was firing missiles at people who weren't even in Iraq, much less on any "front".