(August 28, 2013 at 7:02 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I got asked this question today: if the Psalms were written a thousand years before Jesus came, how is it possible they described Jesus?

Does anyone know if there's non Biblical proof for a Jesus being born? Much less his life and death?

It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. People still do it today with the book of Revelations.

(August 28, 2013 at 6:41 pm)ronedee Wrote: seriously? the pope... a priest nun....but the pope?

Actually, Min might not be much, but he is still better than your Jesus. So he must be better than your pope by a pretty large margin.

And the joke is on you if you don't clearly realise either of those two points.

(August 28, 2013 at 7:02 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I got asked this question today: if the Psalms were written a thousand years before Jesus came, how is it possible they described Jesus?

Does anyone know if there's non Biblical proof for a Jesus being born? Much less his life and death?

How exactly did the Psalms describe Jesus?

(August 28, 2013 at 8:55 pm)smax Wrote:

(August 28, 2013 at 7:02 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I got asked this question today: if the Psalms were written a thousand years before Jesus came, how is it possible they described Jesus?

Does anyone know if there's non Biblical proof for a Jesus being born? Much less his life and death?

How exactly did the Psalms describe Jesus?

I'd like something more tangible than "a self-fulfilling prophecy".
Psalms were described to me as being written a thousands years prior to the birth of the Messiah being born in Galilee, at a certain astrological cycle, with surrounding events such as Herod's killing of all the jewish babies and such, then the death of Jesus also described and him only doing one thing to self fulfill that prophecy which was to drink wine during his death sentence. I was also told that there were tangible earth events (such as earthquakes and solar eclipses) and the Shroud of Turin being shredded in half-- that accompanied Jesus' death.

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1. Is ANY of this verifiable through an outside source?
2. Are there records of this Jesus existing?

I thought the answer to those was no

The answers remain no.

(August 28, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, Min might not be much, but he is still better than your Jesus. So he must be better than your pope by a pretty large margin.

And the joke is on you if you don't clearly realise either of those two points.

The sad thing here is that you know the truth.

(August 28, 2013 at 11:29 pm)ronedee Wrote:

(August 28, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, Min might not be much, but he is still better than your Jesus. So he must be better than your pope by a pretty large margin.

And the joke is on you if you don't clearly realise either of those two points.

The sad thing here is that you know the truth.

Holy crap! Did I read that right???

Me, too....

(August 28, 2013 at 11:29 pm)ronedee Wrote: The sad thing here is that you know the truth.

The sad thing here is that you think you know the truth.

Even sadder is that you think everyone else is entitled to know it as well.

(August 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:

(August 28, 2013 at 8:55 pm)smax Wrote: How exactly did the Psalms describe Jesus?

I'd like something more tangible than "a self-fulfilling prophecy".
Psalms were described to me as being written a thousands years prior to the birth of the Messiah being born in Galilee, at a certain astrological cycle, with surrounding events such as Herod's killing of all the jewish babies and such, then the death of Jesus also described and him only doing one thing to self fulfill that prophecy which was to drink wine during his death sentence. I was also told that there were tangible earth events (such as earthquakes and solar eclipses) and the Shroud of Turin being shredded in half-- that accompanied Jesus' death.

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1. Is ANY of this verifiable through an outside source?
2. Are there records of this Jesus existing?

I thought the answer to those was no

Exactly. If you write history yourself, you can make anything happen within that history. The Bible is filled with fictional tales and events. Ofcourse the prophesies were fulfilled within that framework! LOL.

I'm very familiar with scripture, and can't think of a single thing within it that's impressive or compelling. It reads like non-sense and ultimately proves to be non-sense.

I'm only sad that I once felt compelled to say otherwise.