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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 28, 2013 at 7:16 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 7:02 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I got asked this question today: if the Psalms were written a thousand years before Jesus came, how is it possible they described Jesus?
Does anyone know if there's non Biblical proof for a Jesus being born? Much less his life and death?
It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. People still do it today with the book of Revelations.
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 28, 2013 at 7:22 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 6:41 pm)ronedee Wrote: seriously? the pope... a priest nun....but the pope?
Actually, Min might not be much, but he is still better than your Jesus. So he must be better than your pope by a pretty large margin.
And the joke is on you if you don't clearly realise either of those two points.
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 28, 2013 at 8:55 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 7:02 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I got asked this question today: if the Psalms were written a thousand years before Jesus came, how is it possible they described Jesus?
Does anyone know if there's non Biblical proof for a Jesus being born? Much less his life and death?
How exactly did the Psalms describe Jesus?
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm
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(August 28, 2013 at 8:55 pm)smax Wrote: (August 28, 2013 at 7:02 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I got asked this question today: if the Psalms were written a thousand years before Jesus came, how is it possible they described Jesus?
Does anyone know if there's non Biblical proof for a Jesus being born? Much less his life and death?
How exactly did the Psalms describe Jesus?
I'd like something more tangible than "a self-fulfilling prophecy".
Psalms were described to me as being written a thousands years prior to the birth of the Messiah being born in Galilee, at a certain astrological cycle, with surrounding events such as Herod's killing of all the jewish babies and such, then the death of Jesus also described and him only doing one thing to self fulfill that prophecy which was to drink wine during his death sentence. I was also told that there were tangible earth events (such as earthquakes and solar eclipses) and the Shroud of Turin being shredded in half-- that accompanied Jesus' death.
1. Is ANY of this verifiable through an outside source?
2. Are there records of this Jesus existing?
I thought the answer to those was no
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 28, 2013 at 10:35 pm
The answers remain no.
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 28, 2013 at 11:29 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, Min might not be much, but he is still better than your Jesus. So he must be better than your pope by a pretty large margin.
And the joke is on you if you don't clearly realise either of those two points.
The sad thing here is that you know the truth.
Quis ut Deus?
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 28, 2013 at 11:32 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 11:29 pm)ronedee Wrote: (August 28, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, Min might not be much, but he is still better than your Jesus. So he must be better than your pope by a pretty large margin.
And the joke is on you if you don't clearly realise either of those two points.
The sad thing here is that you know the truth.
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 28, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Holy crap! Did I read that right???
Me, too....
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 29, 2013 at 12:26 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 11:29 pm)ronedee Wrote: The sad thing here is that you know the truth.
The sad thing here is that you think you know the truth.
Even sadder is that you think everyone else is entitled to know it as well.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 29, 2013 at 3:26 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: (August 28, 2013 at 8:55 pm)smax Wrote: How exactly did the Psalms describe Jesus?
I'd like something more tangible than "a self-fulfilling prophecy".
Psalms were described to me as being written a thousands years prior to the birth of the Messiah being born in Galilee, at a certain astrological cycle, with surrounding events such as Herod's killing of all the jewish babies and such, then the death of Jesus also described and him only doing one thing to self fulfill that prophecy which was to drink wine during his death sentence. I was also told that there were tangible earth events (such as earthquakes and solar eclipses) and the Shroud of Turin being shredded in half-- that accompanied Jesus' death.
1. Is ANY of this verifiable through an outside source?
2. Are there records of this Jesus existing?
I thought the answer to those was no
Exactly. If you write history yourself, you can make anything happen within that history. The Bible is filled with fictional tales and events. Ofcourse the prophesies were fulfilled within that framework! LOL.
I'm very familiar with scripture, and can't think of a single thing within it that's impressive or compelling. It reads like non-sense and ultimately proves to be non-sense.
I'm only sad that I once felt compelled to say otherwise.
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