(August 29, 2013 at 8:59 pm)yoleeena Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 8:57 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: So you came here to preach?

Blow Allah out your ass.

(Sorry, Min )

Again, another very respectful, well-mannerd atheist
You're all very alike aren't you?

I *was* polite until it became clear that you came here not to ask questions as you claimed, but to preach. At that point, you get what you deserve: contempt.

(August 29, 2013 at 8:59 pm)yoleeena Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 8:57 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: So you came here to preach?

Blow Allah out your ass.

(Sorry, Min )

Again, another very respectful, well-mannerd atheist
You're all very alike aren't you?

Yes, intelligent, rational, and fucking gorgeous. I'm sorry you religious trolls can't be a part of that.

(August 29, 2013 at 8:56 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 8:53 pm)yoleeena Wrote: Don't worry, He WILL prove it to you one day, but what benefit will that bring to you on a day when all the doors of forgiveness and repentance are closed?
Life is short, stop waiting around for the scientists to give you answers, they can't, you were brought here for a reason, find that reason before its too late

Let me ask you something. Those who are intellectually and mentally challenged and believe in other gods or god instead of allah. Do they deserve to go to hell?

There is a difference of opinion of this, some scholars say if they are people of the Book, e.g Christians and follow Christianity propely then no, they won't
And obviously,the message of Islam hasn't reached everyone in their lifetime, some have died without ever hearing about Islam so no they won't enter hell straight away as this wouldn't be fair and God is the Just.
But if the message of Islam has reached them yet they refuse to follow the correct path i.e Islam yet they are good people God will bless them in their life on Earth by giving them money, kids, long life or whateer it is they want but they are unlikely to not go to hell because they are doing something very very wrong- they are not acknowledging the One God who created them, sustains them gives them food shelter clothing etc an that is even from a moral perspective wrong
By being a Christian for example, youre not acknowedging the ONE God who is All-Powerful, All-Hearing, All-Seeing etc, because of the trinity which attributes Godly attributes to a human being i.e Jesus
And at the end of the day, God is testing who will believe in the message (that He is One) without seeing Him

Your God sounds like an idiot.

(August 29, 2013 at 9:09 pm)yoleeena Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 8:56 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Let me ask you something. Those who are intellectually and mentally challenged and believe in other gods or god instead of allah. Do they deserve to go to hell?

There is a difference of opinion of this, some scholars say if they are people of the Book, e.g Christians and follow Christianity propely then no, they won't
And obviously,the message of Islam hasn't reached everyone in their lifetime, some have died without ever hearing about Islam so no they won't enter hell straight away as this wouldn't be fair and God is the Just.
But if the message of Islam has reached them yet they refuse to follow the correct path i.e Islam yet they are good people God will bless them in their life on Earth by giving them money, kids, long life or whateer it is they want but they are unlikely to not go to hell because they are doing something very very wrong- they are not acknowledging the One God who created them, sustains them gives them food shelter clothing etc an that is even from a moral perspective wrong
By being a Christian for example, youre not acknowedging the ONE God who is All-Powerful, All-Hearing, All-Seeing etc, because of the trinity which attributes Godly attributes to a human being i.e Jesus
And at the end of the day, God is testing who will believe in the message (that He is One) without seeing Him

Ok, from that I've determined that allah isn't worthy of worship even if he exists. So you can pack your bags, even if you prove allah's existence you wouldn't have converted me.

(August 29, 2013 at 9:01 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 8:58 pm)yoleeena Wrote: Keep up, whats wrong with you? I wasn't using the Quran to prove God's existance (although many people have converted to Islam by just reading the Quran, its all over the internet if you don't believe), I was using the verses to reply to person who said the Quran is superstitious, barbaric looool

Oh, in that case, keep insinuating that we'll go to hell when we die and that we deserve to. Very civilized and not at all barbaric. You're making your point really, really well.

But if there is God (which there is, whether you like it or not guys), and you are insulting and mocking and ridiculing Him, do you honestly expect to go Paradise, among those who served him and fought their desires to obey his commands?

Some Muslim you are...quoting the Quran without also posting the original Arabic.

Anyway, how are those verses you put up at all a reference to the Big Bang? It's widely considered to be an expansion of a singularity, which "separated" into many parts. In no way was it "split", as your Quran states, or that would insinuate that there are only two parts to the universe. (Because a split usually infers a breaking of one object into two parts.) When thought of in the framework of the ideas of that time (i.e. the limited understanding of simple shepherd folk), this makes perfect sense to them, as they only recognized two parts of their world: the earth on which they walked, and the heavens in which they believed Allah to reside.

(August 29, 2013 at 9:12 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 9:09 pm)yoleeena Wrote: There is a difference of opinion of this, some scholars say if they are people of the Book, e.g Christians and follow Christianity propely then no, they won't
And obviously,the message of Islam hasn't reached everyone in their lifetime, some have died without ever hearing about Islam so no they won't enter hell straight away as this wouldn't be fair and God is the Just.
But if the message of Islam has reached them yet they refuse to follow the correct path i.e Islam yet they are good people God will bless them in their life on Earth by giving them money, kids, long life or whateer it is they want but they are unlikely to not go to hell because they are doing something very very wrong- they are not acknowledging the One God who created them, sustains them gives them food shelter clothing etc an that is even from a moral perspective wrong
By being a Christian for example, youre not acknowedging the ONE God who is All-Powerful, All-Hearing, All-Seeing etc, because of the trinity which attributes Godly attributes to a human being i.e Jesus
And at the end of the day, God is testing who will believe in the message (that He is One) without seeing Him

Ok, from that I've determined that allah isn't worthy of worship even if he exists. So you can pack your bags, even if you prove allah's existence you wouldn't have converted me.

In regards to some people, God says:
"And it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.You can only warn one who follows the message and fears the Most Merciful unseen. So give him good tidings of forgiveness and noble reward"

I can believe without worshipping. I went through a small period of that before becoming an atheist. Not as hard as you think once you get pass how evil god is.

You seem not to understand, here are the problems:
1. There is no evidence. This leads to my disbelief.
2. Your god is evil. This means even if he exists I won't worship him.

You going to keep preaching to us, or are you going to give us something we can actually sink our teeth into?