(September 14, 2013 at 9:24 am)enrico Wrote: I did not think that was so difficult to explain what wisdom is, how do you get it and where wisdom can lead to if you really know the meaning of philosophy.

I have read your question. I was asking what is the point in it. Explain what wisdom is? and how you can get it? and where it can lead you?

(September 14, 2013 at 9:24 am)enrico Wrote: People post in the philosophy forum without knowing the meaning of philosophy that is why i think it is laughable the whole thing especially considering that love of wisdom and atheism are the two opposite.

How do you know that they don't know the meaning of philosophy? Because they haven't answered you? Well why don't you enlighten us and show that your arrogance is not unfounded.
And I don't think you understand the concept of opposites.

Rico, I think you've pretty much established by now that you wouldn't be able to tell philosophy from philology, philately or Phil the Fluter.

(September 14, 2013 at 12:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Rico, I think you've pretty much established by now that you wouldn't be able to tell philosophy from philology, philately or Phil the Fluter.

But if he is any good at all with yoga perhaps he can give a decent account of autofellatery.

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(July 17, 2013 at 10:53 am)Chuck Wrote:

(July 17, 2013 at 10:26 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Is there a point to this?

Yes. He wanted to prove blind chance could never give him coherence, much less soundness or validity.

You may be on to something. He may in the end prove the infinite monkey theorem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

(September 14, 2013 at 10:57 am)Rationalman Wrote:

(September 14, 2013 at 9:24 am)enrico Wrote: I did not think that was so difficult to explain what wisdom is, how do you get it and where wisdom can lead to if you really know the meaning of philosophy.

I have read your question. I was asking what is the point in it. Explain what wisdom is? and how you can get it? and where it can lead you?

(September 14, 2013 at 9:24 am)enrico Wrote: People post in the philosophy forum without knowing the meaning of philosophy that is why i think it is laughable the whole thing especially considering that love of wisdom and atheism are the two opposite.

How do you know that they don't know the meaning of philosophy? Because they haven't answered you? Well why don't you enlighten us and show that your arrogance is not unfounded.
And I don't think you understand the concept of opposites.

Actually i did not start to be arrogant with anyone.
It is when some people start swearing to me for no reason that i start questioning whether they are knowledge and serious people or just pretentious intellectual cretins.
And that is the reason why i did asked the meaning of philosophy.
Considering that none so far was able to answer that question this tell me a lot even if there is the REMOTE possibility that as you say same may know the meaning but is not answering.
What love of wisdom means?
Wisdom can not possibly be found within a finite arena like within this universe.
When you make love whether it is physical love or spiritual love you tend to go to the end toward infinity.
If you put limit to love then it is not real love.
Considering that within this universe everything is limited then you know that the search for total love and wisdom is impossible.
So how do you find total love?
Well if it is not to be found outside then has got to be found inside but this require searching within that is why i said that this attitude is the opposite of someone that does not believe in spirituality.

(September 15, 2013 at 3:54 am)enrico Wrote: When you make love whether it is physical love or spiritual love you tend to go to the end toward infinity.

What the hell does that mean?

(September 15, 2013 at 3:54 am)enrico Wrote: Considering that within this universe everything is limited

How do you know that?

(September 15, 2013 at 3:54 am)enrico Wrote: then you know that the search for total love and wisdom is impossible.
So how do you find total love?
Well if it is not to be found outside then has got to be found inside but this require searching within that is why i said that this attitude is the opposite of someone that does not believe in spirituality.

Yea you are pretty much unintelligible

(September 15, 2013 at 3:54 am)enrico Wrote: Actually i did not start to be arrogant with anyone.
It is when some people start swearing to me for no reason that i start questioning whether they are knowledge and serious people or just pretentious intellectual cretins.

Actually, the height of arrogance is to assert that people are going to swear at you for no reason; that they, unlike the great and honorable Enrico, have no other means of rational expression and will simply resort to lashing out without provocation.

Most, if not all, people here are reasonable individuals. There's an old phrase you may have heard, "garbage in, garbage out". Put another way, you get what you give. If you find that people aren't treating your claims as seriously as you would like, first of all they're probably not dismissing you as a person and second of all, maybe you ought to re-evaluate your own position and attitude. After all, a driver facing a lot of oncoming traffic might just be the one going the wrong way.

(September 15, 2013 at 11:37 am)Stimbo Wrote: Actually, the height of arrogance is to assert that people are going to swear at you for no reason; that they, unlike the great and honorable Enrico, have no other means of rational expression and will simply resort to lashing out without provocation.
Most, if not all, people here are reasonable individuals. There's an old phrase you may have heard, "garbage in, garbage out". Put another way, you get what you give. If you find that people aren't treating your claims as seriously as you would like, first of all they're probably not dismissing you as a person and second of all, maybe you ought to re-evaluate your own position and attitude. After all, a driver facing a lot of oncoming traffic might just be the one going the wrong way.

I like that..........you get what you give.......
Don't tell me that all of a sudden you start to believe in the karma law and maybe in a mind that administer the punishment and reward.
That would be funny.

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(September 14, 2013 at 12:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Rico, I think you've pretty much established by now that you wouldn't be able to tell philosophy from philology, philately or Phil the Fluter.

Oh, i see.
So you are the one who know what philosophy is and like a professional poker player have been waiting to throw down your top cards so in the meantime more money are put on the table.
Gee, in this way you torture me in my stressful wait to know if anyone could come up with the answer.
Naughty boy.

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(September 15, 2013 at 3:54 am)enrico Wrote: When you make love whether it is physical love or spiritual love you tend to go to the end toward infinity.

Quote:Rationalman......What the hell does that mean?

No limit to what you are looking or searching for so you tend to go to the very end in order to reach the goal or destination.
When you think that this physical universe is all there is then you put limit to your search.

(September 15, 2013 at 3:54 am)enrico Wrote: Considering that within this universe everything is limited

Quote:Rationalman.......How do you know that?

Can you find satisfaction physically and mentally speaking?
Sorry but that is impossible because as you get hold of something then something else come up and you search continue for ever and ever.
Satisfaction only last for a very short period and then the torture of incompleteness is back.

Quote:Rationalman..........Yea you are pretty much unintelligible

I do not understand Chinese or Arabic so to me they are UNINTELLIGIBLE but i know that for those who can understand these languages they are not UNINTELLIGIBLE.
So it is all relative isn't it?

Yes. It's relative to people who communicate sensible ideas in English, and those who do not.

Quote:I do not understand Chinese or Arabic so to me they are UNINTELLIGIBLE but i know that for those who can understand these languages they are not UNINTELLIGIBLE. So it is all relative isn't it?

Say whaaaat? If 2 people lack a means of communication, neither person is unintelligible. This is really about humanity not having been fully prepared to connect any 2 people due to cultural differences... impediments to communication. However, with newer translation technology and a global trend in the english language, this may not have to be a trouble.

Quote: When you make love whether it is physical love or spiritual love you tend to go to the end toward infinity. If you put limit to love then it is not real love.

Enrico's lover: "Enrico, you will love me to infinity won't you?"

Enrico: "Baby, I don't limits on my love. I go hard."



Enrico's lover: "So you will love me forever and ever?"

Enrico: "No."

Enrico's lover: *shoots self*

Enrico: "Why baby, why! I going to say that I will love you FIVE ever because five more than four!"

(September 18, 2013 at 7:57 am)enrico Wrote: I like that..........you get what you give.......
Don't tell me that all of a sudden you start to believe in the karma law and maybe in a mind that administer the punishment and reward.
That would be funny.

That would also be why I wouldn't say any such thing, because I don't believe that crap you assert for me and never claimed to. Don't ever dare to presume to put words in my mouth. Once more for the moron:

How you are treated depends solely on how you behave. If you come in here acting like a babbling idiot, shitting on the carpet and insulting our intelligence, if that is truly the way you want us to see you, then you have no right whining about unfair treatment.

(September 18, 2013 at 7:57 am)enrico Wrote:

(September 14, 2013 at 12:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Rico, I think you've pretty much established by now that you wouldn't be able to tell philosophy from philology, philately or Phil the Fluter.

Oh, i see.
So you are the one who know what philosophy is and like a professional poker player have been waiting to throw down your top cards so in the meantime more money are put on the table.
Gee, in this way you torture me in my stressful wait to know if anyone could come up with the answer.
Naughty boy.

No I'm not any of those things, but then this isn't about me. I don't have to be any kind of philosophical genius to recognise bullshit when I smell it. If this is really how you behave in real life, I am so glad I will never have to meet you. If it's not and this is all an act, how sad that you choose the persona of an utter twat.