Fuck evidence. Enrico believes it therefore it must be true.

(September 20, 2013 at 8:49 am)enrico Wrote:

(September 19, 2013 at 10:38 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Enrico, your problem is evidence. There is evidence of evolution hence you get a flu shot every year. This vibrational business has no empirical evidence behind and a lot people use it to push scams.

Who said that i do not believe in evolution?
Actually i do believe a lot more in evolution then most of the people.
Of course there are differences.
I do believe in INDIVIDUAL evolution and that means that every single entity has got the possibility to advance toward the goal of life by passing through so many stages from small consciousness to big consciousness.
On the contrary so many people believe that they pop up as human just because there has been an evolution of the species.
Certainly this evolution of the species is a reality but people tend to think that you as an individual have not gone through the hard work of not passing through all stages of life (mineral life, vegetable, animal and human).

One more thing.
Let me see your dogmas.

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

The most powerful learning experiences usually result from making mistakes. Some people don't seem to learn even after they do mistakes but most do.
Life is all about learning so step by step you tend to advance toward the goal of life and this advancing is what give pleasure to the creator of this physical realty. Any father would like to see his children develop more and more consciousness.
To suffer is tough but is not the creator that cause suffering.
Suffering is there for the purpose of learning not for the sake to see the people suffer.
A good teacher can not let students who did not learn anything advance to higher stages.
With the physical death learning continue in further reincarnation.
Nothing is lost and everything is gained as the life continue until all lesson are learned.

And what about babies born with aids that die at three months or the 50'000 children a day that starve, or innocent women stoned to death in Saudra Arabia?

Quote: If you have no idea of the meaning of love of wisdom how can you possibly talk about evolution? Evolution go hand in hand with achieved consciousness and wisdom so if you have no idea how consciousness can be achieve then you also have no idea what evolution is. All you know is that evolution pop up as the pop corn pop up from nowhere. Sorry pal but you got a long way to go before you can understand how the whole system works.

•Your "love of wisdom" principle is as credible as 2 leopards fucking in the Savannah.

•Evolution is not something a person believes in. If You believe in everything You were told... well, that is just gullible. Evolution is based on facts. Evolution is not a fact itself, but a theory. A strong theory. Evidence like influenza mutations or the dog as a companion makes evolution stronger. Your pansy flower garden view of the world is weak.

•Do You mean consciousness as in a thinking brain? If so, there are clear differences mammal to mammal in the structure of the brain. Are You familiar with the cerebral cortex or the size of our skulls compared to the rest of our body. Manipulating objects with our hands also helps when learning how to cope easier in survival.

•Whatever mushroom You ate, never offer me it.

(September 20, 2013 at 9:49 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: And what about babies born with aids that die at three months or the 50'000 children a day that starve, or innocent women stoned to death in Saudra Arabia?

Tough but that is how the karma system works.
In previous lives these looking innocent people were engaged in making other people suffer like torturing, stoning and killing.
Just think how many people in the history and even today have or are engaged in doing these nasty things.
Million and million of them have been doing these terrible things that is why million and million of people keep on coming back to experience the nasty things that they did in previous lives.
Without justice there can not be progress.
It all sound horrible but there is no other way around.
If someone rape and kill your wife or daughter i am sure that you would like to see the nasty person hang by the balls so what you whining about?

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(September 20, 2013 at 10:06 am)Walking Void Wrote: •Your "love of wisdom" principle is as credible as 2 leopards fucking in the Savannah.
•Evolution is not something a person believes in. If You believe in everything You were told... well, that is just gullible. Evolution is based on facts. Evolution is not a fact itself, but a theory. A strong theory. Evidence like influenza mutations or the dog as a companion makes evolution stronger. Your pansy flower garden view of the world is weak.
•Do You mean consciousness as in a thinking brain? If so, there are clear differences mammal to mammal in the structure of the brain. Are You familiar with the cerebral cortex or the size of our skulls compared to the rest of our body. Manipulating objects with our hands also helps when learning how to cope easier in survival.
•Whatever mushroom You ate, never offer me it.

Unfortunately you are not aware that within the physical world there can not be any progress so evolution is not driven by something physical or mental but by the higher stratum of consciousness that tend to get out this physical bondage.
Even the influenza mutations are driven by those virus that by the force of instinct tend to advance by getting to higher stratum of life.
This desire to prosper change their structure.
The same apply to any other entity in this physical universe as well as in any other dimension that exist.
To understand how the system work you don't have to eat any mushroom.
All you have to do is to stop looking outside and start looking within.

(September 20, 2013 at 8:49 am)enrico Wrote: Of course my english is not the best so i may not be too legible but the main problem is not my english.

Your right, your main problem is your english and shit coming out of your mouth. Kind of a dual main problem

(September 20, 2013 at 10:09 am)enrico Wrote:

(September 20, 2013 at 9:49 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: And what about babies born with aids that die at three months or the 50'000 children a day that starve, or innocent women stoned to death in Saudra Arabia?

Tough but that is how the karma system works.
In previous lives these looking innocent people were engaged in making other people suffer like torturing, stoning and killing.
Just think how many people in the history and even today have or are engaged in doing these nasty things.
Million and million of them have been doing these terrible things that is why million and million of people keep on coming back to experience the nasty things that they did in previous lives.
Without justice there can not be progress.
It all sound horrible but there is no other way around.
If someone rape and kill your wife or daughter i am sure that you would like to see the nasty person hang by the balls so what you whining about?

And this is the point at which you officially cross from being a clown to a bastard. How fucking dare you try to rationalise the suffering of innocents by saying they deserve it? How fucking dare you, sir? Are we to conclude that in a previous life you were guilty of such a severe crime against humanity that your punishment was to be reborn as a pathetic gibbering lunatic? Unfortunately, the chances of the Universe even caring about what a race of monkeys desperately wants to be true and just are about as astronomically high as you having two brain cells that talk to each other.

(September 20, 2013 at 11:07 am)Rationalman Wrote:

(September 20, 2013 at 8:49 am)enrico Wrote: Of course my english is not the best so i may not be too legible but the main problem is not my english.

Your right, your main problem is your english and shit coming out of your mouth. Kind of a dual main problem

The hypocrisy is his main problem and it makes him look asshattish.

This thread is STILL alive? Guys, Enrico is not going to start making sense and will ignore us because he is the messiah of his world.

Enrico makes me bipolar. One moment I will be serious, the next moment He will have me snickering.

(September 20, 2013 at 11:18 am)Stimbo Wrote: And this is the point at which you officially cross from being a clown to a bastard. How fucking dare you try to rationalise the suffering of innocents by saying they deserve it? How fucking dare you, sir? Are we to conclude that in a previous life you were guilty of such a severe crime against humanity that your punishment was to be reborn as a pathetic gibbering lunatic? Unfortunately, the chances of the Universe even caring about what a race of monkeys desperately wants to be true and just are about as astronomically high as you having two brain cells that talk to each other.

I would lay money that he can't see how morally repugnant his dogma is.

My wife has a similar view to Enrico, as a spiritualist she believes that people choose their life in order to learn and grow.

This could be used by any believer to justify any atrocity on the basis that the person suffering "chose" to suffer.

Blank looks are all I get.

Luckily she is lovely with a rocking bod.