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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm
(September 27, 2013 at 9:27 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (September 27, 2013 at 9:20 pm)Drich Wrote: Shiva was a destroyer God.
Quote:Shaivas believe that Shiva is All and in all, the creator, preserver, destroyer, revealer and concealer of all that is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva
Drich Wrote:Zeus was the god of the sky, and king of all other gods
The Titans, then. I can't remember which ones were responsible for creation.
Drich Wrote:Ra was a solar deity.
Fair enough, but my point still stands.
Then it is a race between God and shevia.
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 7:50 am
(September 21, 2013 at 11:01 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Imagine the most perfect person you can think of,and tell me about them. Then imagine the most evil person you can think of and tell me about them. And which demands to be worshiped?
God created free will beings. But a free will being can chose to disobey God and even reject God. It is not God who creates evil, but the free will being who chooses to do so.
But in the end, God does bring justice. And all evil will stop.
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 8:13 am
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(September 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: Then it is a race between God and shevia.
The list of creator gods is very long. It's kind of like one of those big marathons, with hundreds of people at the starting line, except that they're tossing thunderbolts at each other and incredulously shouting "YOU CAN'T EXIST... I DON'T REMEMBER CREATING YOU!!!"
(September 29, 2013 at 7:50 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: God created free will beings. But a free will being can chose to disobey God and even reject God. It is not God who creates evil, but the free will being who chooses to do so. He created people with the capacity, but not the inclination, to turn from him then provided an easy means by which they could do so, and allowed access to a being who would coax them into doing it. Then he blamed them for the result. And you pat him on the back for providing a choice between mindless devotion and eternal judgment and calling it "free."
If god brings justice, it sounds as if he should start with himself.
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 8:33 am
(September 29, 2013 at 8:13 am)Tonus Wrote: (September 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: Then it is a race between God and shevia.
The list of creator gods is very long. It's kind of like one of those big marathons, with hundreds of people at the starting line, except that they're tossing thunderbolts at each other and incredulously shouting "YOU CAN'T EXIST... I DON'T REMEMBER CREATING YOU!!!"
(September 29, 2013 at 7:50 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: God created free will beings. But a free will being can chose to disobey God and even reject God. It is not God who creates evil, but the free will being who chooses to do so. He created people with the capacity, but not the inclination, to turn from him then provided an easy means by which they could do so, and allowed access to a being who would coax them into doing it. Then he blamed them for the result. And you pat him on the back for providing a choice between mindless devotion and eternal judgment and calling it "free."
If god brings justice, it sounds as if he should start with himself.
But God never sinned.
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 9:40 am
(September 29, 2013 at 8:33 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: But God never sinned.
That's because "sin" is disobeying god apparently. Kind of hard to disobey yourself.
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 1:34 pm
(September 29, 2013 at 8:13 am)Tonus Wrote: (September 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: Then it is a race between God and shevia.
The list of creator gods is very long. It's kind of like one of those big marathons, with hundreds of people at the starting line, except that they're tossing thunderbolts at each other and incredulously shouting "YOU CAN'T EXIST... I DON'T REMEMBER CREATING YOU!!!"
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 1:46 pm
(September 29, 2013 at 1:34 pm)apophenia Wrote: (September 29, 2013 at 8:13 am)Tonus Wrote: The list of creator gods is very long. It's kind of like one of those big marathons, with hundreds of people at the starting line, except that they're tossing thunderbolts at each other and incredulously shouting "YOU CAN'T EXIST... I DON'T REMEMBER CREATING YOU!!!"
But the famous of them all is the Creator of the Bible.
Of course Satan would have to have counterfeits.
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 2:12 pm
(September 29, 2013 at 1:46 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (September 29, 2013 at 1:34 pm)apophenia Wrote: viii
But the famous of them all is the Creator of the Bible.
Of course Satan would have to have counterfeits.
And how do you know the God that you worship isn't a Satan that is deceiving you and leading you away from the true god?
Also god didn't create the bible, men did.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 2:17 pm
(September 29, 2013 at 7:50 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: God created free will beings. But a free will being can chose to disobey God and even reject God. It is not God who creates evil, but the free will being who chooses to do so.
But in the end, God does bring justice. And all evil will stop.
God apparently created everything. So like it or not, he created evil too
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RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 29, 2013 at 3:13 pm
(September 29, 2013 at 2:17 pm)Rationalman Wrote: (September 29, 2013 at 7:50 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: God created free will beings. But a free will being can chose to disobey God and even reject God. It is not God who creates evil, but the free will being who chooses to do so.
But in the end, God does bring justice. And all evil will stop.
God apparently created everything. So like it or not, he created evil too
Just free will beings.
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