(October 4, 2013 at 7:54 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Hey, I'd don't say much to this airhead (oh no, will he get banned, too?). Punching a pillow isn't a very fulfilling experience.

(October 4, 2013 at 6:06 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:

(October 4, 2013 at 6:00 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I take it that you cannot refute the post.

If in a debate, the truth or facts do not support you, try anything else.

Clearly you are simply here to annoy the people on this forum.

Of all the various posts I made in reply to you in which I quote scientific papers and leave the explainations for the facts that refute your claims you dont reply to a single one!

Instead you reply to the post in which as a reaction to the behavior you display (ignoring replies, refusing to read through posts) demand an end to this silly game of yours.

Clearly you dont have the arguments nore the brains to participate in a debate. As such there is no space for you in a place where people come to for the purpose of debate.

Change your behavior! Reply to people when they post counterarguments! Dont ignore the arguments that adress you!

Or get off this forum and stop wasting peoples time!

(October 4, 2013 at 8:25 pm)Stimbo Wrote: This topic started off challenged. Reality challenges it.

(October 4, 2013 at 3:58 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 4, 2013 at 3:55 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So then find me a mainstream scientific source that says that evolution is one species giving birth to offspring of another species, and you might have a point.

Or can't you do that?

a mainstream source "says".
Are you saying actual observation or is it just a conclusion based on assumptions?

Also the definition of species is important.

Quote: Happenings are sometimes organised at which thousands of people hold hands and form a human chain, say from coast to coast of the United States, in aid of some cause or charity. Let us imagine setting one up along the equator, across the width of our home continent of Africa. It is a special kind of chain, involving parents and children, and we will have to play tricks with time in order to imagine it. You stand on the shore of the Indian Ocean in southern Somalia, facing north, and in your left hand you hold the right hand of your mother. In turn she holds the hand of her mother, your grandmother. Your grandmother holds her mother's hand, and so on. The chain wends its way up the beach, into the arid scrubland and westwards on towards the Kenya border.

How far do we have to go until we reach our common ancestor with the chimpanzees? It is a surprisingly short way. Allowing one yard per person, we arrive at the ancestor we share with chimpanzees in under 300 miles. We have hardly started to cross the continent; we are still not half way to the Great Rift Valley. The ancestor is standing well to the east of Mount Kenya, and holding in her hand an entire chain of her lineal descendants, culminating in you standing on the Somali beach.

The daughter that she is holding in her right hand is the one from whom we are descended. Now the arch-ancestress turns eastward to face the coast, and with her left hand grasps her other daughter, the one from whom the chimpanzees are descended (or son, of course, but let's stick to females for convenience). The two sisters are facing one another, and each holding their mother by the hand. Now the second daughter, the chimpanzee ancestress, holds her daughter's hand, and a new chain is formed, proceeding back towards the coast. First cousin faces first cousin, second cousin faces second cousin, and so on. By the time the folded-back chain has reached the coast again, it consists of modern chimpanzees. You are face to face with your chimpanzee cousin, and you are joined to her by an unbroken chain of mothers holding hands with daughters. If you walked up the line like an inspecting general -past Homo erectus, Homo habilis, perhaps Australopithecus afarensis -and down again the other side (the intermediates on the chimpanzee side are unnamed because, as it happens, no fossils have been found), you would nowhere find any sharp discontinuity. Daughters would resemble mothers just as much (or as little) as they always do. Mothers would love daughters, and feel affinity with them, just as they always And this hand-in-hand continuum, joining us seamlessly to chimpanzees, is so short that it barely makes it past the hinterland of Africa, the mother continent.