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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 7:28 am
So... yay, I guess god is a scientifically provable hypothesis in the end. So, where's them peer reviewed studies that reveal this?
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 8:18 am
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(October 10, 2013 at 7:28 am)Esquilax Wrote: So... yay, I guess god is a scientifically provable hypothesis in the end. So, where's them peer reviewed studies that reveal this?
No because God can't be physically observed therefore you can't physically detect or test his existence via the scientific method. It seems to be difficult to get this point across but that's how it is. You can't have a burden of proof for something that can't by it's nature ever be proven.
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 8:32 am
You can't be fucking serious?!? Speaking in tongues?!?! Absolute nonsense. Its been proven that it is bs. They use different sounds and words to mean the same things and then you ask them to repeat what they said and they use different sounds to mean the same things. And there are some people that claim it is a language lol
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 8:40 am
(October 10, 2013 at 8:32 am)Rationalman Wrote: You can't be fucking serious?!? Speaking in tongues?!?! Absolute nonsense. Its been proven that it is bs. They use different sounds and words to mean the same things and then you ask them to repeat what they said and they use different sounds to mean the same things. And there are some people that claim it is a language lol
A gift of the Spirit my friend. Though you can also see it as a prayer technique, you'll scramble your routine brain circuity/functioning and alter your conscious state in a meditative form which will bring you into a state of greater awareness of Gods presence. But the language itself is essentially gibberish I'll agree with you on that point, there's no real structure to it.
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 8:47 am
(October 10, 2013 at 8:40 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: A gift of the Spirit my friend. Though you can also see it as a prayer technique, you'll scramble your routine brain circuity/functioning and alter your conscious state in a meditative form which will bring you into a state of greater awareness of Gods presence. But the language itself is essentially gibberish I'll agree with you on that point, there's no real structure to it.
now provide the evidence that shows them in an altered state of consciousness
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 9:00 am
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(October 10, 2013 at 8:47 am)Rationalman Wrote: now provide the evidence that shows them in an altered state of consciousness
You can't observe their conscious directly but you can observe what happens to their neurological activity via brain scan imaging. I already posted the picture of it, that's all you can do scientifically.
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 9:05 am
All those pictures show is what part of the brain is most active when they are speaking in tongues. That is not proof of an altered state of consciousness
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 9:11 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:05 am)Rationalman Wrote: All those pictures show is what part of the brain is most active when they are speaking in tongues. That is not proof of an altered state of consciousness
It's proof that whatever they're doing is having a physical observable effect of some kind. It's not proof of a heightened awareness of God as that's beyond what science can study.
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 9:15 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:11 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: It's proof that whatever they're doing is having a physical observable effect of some kind. It's not proof of a heightened awareness of God as that's beyond what science can study.
Everything we do has an observable effect in our brains, whether it be chemical or electrical, its nothing special
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 9:17 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:15 am)Rationalman Wrote: Everything we do has an observable effect in our brains, whether it be chemical or electrical, its nothing special
This isn't a reaction to a chemical or drug but an action of consciousness itself on the brain. But this is all we can physically observe and is the limit of science.
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