(November 1, 2013 at 4:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No shit, if change was impossible because those with money have power above you , nothing in human history would have changed.

As long as you do what you can, and the more like minded people do the same, "small" adds up.

That is exactly what I'm advocating. But starting your own party isn't gonna do shit by itself. It's opinions that you have to change and if you can do that, you don't need a new political party

Brian - While I would like to see at the very least more parties, your advice is still not practical. "Start your own political party" is not the next step the vast majority of us can do, nor does it align with what some in this thread are advocating for as a solution. Doing what one can helps significantly, I agree, but don't act like shit is so goddamn simple.

(November 1, 2013 at 4:19 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote:

(November 1, 2013 at 4:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No shit, if change was impossible because those with money have power above you , nothing in human history would have changed.

As long as you do what you can, and the more like minded people do the same, "small" adds up.

That is exactly what I'm advocating. But starting your own party isn't gonna do shit by itself. It's opinions that you have to change and if you can do that, you don't need a new political party

I am at the point in human history where we are too stupid to see that "up in arms" has everything to do with physical change and nothing to do with thinking.

I don't vote either, there's no point to it. I'm also registered as a member of the Pansexual Peace Party just because of how much of a joke it is. It's not that voting is bad either, but the system we have in place dampens its effectiveness. The candidate with the most money wins 96% of the time, that doesn't exactly sound like votes are swinging elections. I would however vote in a system that has publicly funded campaigns and a no party system.

(November 1, 2013 at 5:40 pm)plaincents822 Wrote: I don't vote either, there's no point to it. I'm also registered as a member of the Pansexual Peace Party just because of how much of a joke it is. It's not that voting is bad either, but the system we have in place dampens its effectiveness. The candidate with the most money wins 96% of the time, that doesn't exactly sound like votes are swinging elections. I would however vote in a system that has publicly funded campaigns and a no party system.

If you don't vote eventually you get to the point of wanting to kill. I'd rather vote than kill.

(November 1, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If you don't vote eventually you get to the point of wanting to kill. I'd rather vote than kill.

Slippery Slope. You should know better.

(November 1, 2013 at 5:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am at the point in human history where we are too stupid to see that "up in arms" has everything to do with physical change and nothing to do with thinking.

Nothing to do with thinking? What good will mindless change do? How will you enact that change without like minded people?

If you actually want things to improve you need to know what to change, how to improve it and the means to implement that change. Unless you're planning on going in mob-handed you'll also need popular support.

Trying to enact physical change without those prerequisites is like driving a car with no steering wheel: sure it'll get you somewhere, but it probably won't get you very far and it certainly won't be where you wanted

(November 1, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(November 1, 2013 at 5:40 pm)plaincents822 Wrote: I don't vote either, there's no point to it. I'm also registered as a member of the Pansexual Peace Party just because of how much of a joke it is. It's not that voting is bad either, but the system we have in place dampens its effectiveness. The candidate with the most money wins 96% of the time, that doesn't exactly sound like votes are swinging elections. I would however vote in a system that has publicly funded campaigns and a no party system.

If you don't vote eventually you get to the point of wanting to kill. I'd rather vote than kill.

Oh yeah I think I heard of that.



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I can make up facts too.

(November 1, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If you don't vote eventually you get to the point of wanting to kill. I'd rather vote than kill.

I vote that your crazy ass gets a ballot for breakfast everyday; holy shit! Vote or kill? Who the hell says that?

In the meantime, swallow this voting comedy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

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