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You really don't get it, do you? We won't take the Holy Babble or any verses from it seriously until you prove that your god exists first. Get cracking, or get tracking.

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Listen up, OP. You need a better education in molecular genetics. I'd be happy to recommend a textbook, since I've been teaching the subject for years.

I have a crisis about coming into threads like this, because it wounds my heart to see such ignorance. However, it's not my damned job to raise every ignorant person on the internet from scratch. Take a fucking class. Read a textbook. Figure out how to navigate PubMed.

(December 8, 2013 at 8:27 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: TL;DR

You really don't get it, do you? We won't take the Holy Babble or any verses from it seriously until you prove that your god exists first. Get cracking, or get tracking.

I notice the light shining on the back, but the shadow will still follow as evidence of the one standing in its rays. Light reveals what it hits and this is true for each of us. For each person who faces away, there are a few who see the light clearly around their silhouette. Possibly, the mistake is to assume I shine the light on the path for you. Most often, the lighthouse is not there for the benefit of the rocks or waves, but for those passing in the storm. Choose to see the danger or not. It's entirely up to you.

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(December 8, 2013 at 8:37 pm)Zazzy Wrote: I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Listen up, OP. You need a better education in molecular genetics. I'd be happy to recommend a textbook, since I've been teaching the subject for years.

I have a crisis about coming into threads like this, because it wounds my heart to see such ignorance. However, it's not my damned job to raise every ignorant person on the internet from scratch. Take a fucking class. Read a textbook. Figure out how to navigate PubMed.

If you teach the subject, then it should not escape your attention that Father in Hebrew is Aleph Bet (Letters), Mother is Aleph Mem (Water) and Son is Bet Nun, or the House of Seed. DNA is stitched with this thread and it should be evident, especially for someone who teaches the subject daily. The human body is a marvel of engineering and is a masterpiece of creative design and artistry. To deny this is to deny the simplest of evident truths.

Let me ask the academic a question. Do you make your hair grow. Do you make your eyes see? Do you pump the blood in your heart? Do you make the sun shine or the Earth turn? Nope. You do none of it. As a matter of fact, you only do two things in life. You think and you move. That's it. The rest is done for you and you benefit from a trillion operations each second that you can take no credit for accomplishing. Your thoughts and movements will define your path.

As I stated earlier, Aleph Mem Tav is the word Truth, which is EMET. Taking Aleph (Strength) from the word makes MET, or death. The Aleph is the Father, or strength of the home. A home must be filled. The word Homer is 10 bushels of grain. Grain makes bread, which is the symbol of life. Ears of grain open to express the new crop. Closed ears will not grow. A strong house requires faith, or our reverence for the one who provides the home.

I wish you luck. God bless.

(December 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: If you teach the subject, then it should not escape your attention that Father in Hebrew is Aleph Bet (Letters), Mother is Aleph Mem (Water) and Son is Bet Nun, or the House of Seed. DNA is stitched with this thread and it should be evident, especially for someone who teaches the subject daily. The human body is a marvel of engineering and is a masterpiece of creative design and artistry. To deny this is to deny the simplest of evident truths.

I'm going to try, one last time, to help you figure this out. You've made a claim, that this Aleph Bet stuff matches DNA. The problem we're having is that postgame comparisons like this don't actually tell us anything, because you could equally just change your tune if things were different. Let's be clear: drawing attention to patterns that you can see isn't any form of proof of anything grander than the fact that you can see patterns. I made just such a comparison earlier in the thread, where I said that because one can make the word "gcat" from the letters of DNA, then all cats with names beginning with g must be the designers of DNA. Other than cultural acceptance, what's the difference between that claim and your christian one?

And to be clear, following up your initial claim with smug condescension and appeals to authority aren't helping your case.

You're barking up the wrong tree Strong Waters. Even if "YHVH is the Lord" was printed on every cell they would call it a coincidence.

(December 8, 2013 at 10:18 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: You're barking up the wrong tree Strong Waters. Even if "YHVH is the Lord" was printed on every cell they would call it a coincidence.

This old "you just don't want to believe!" canard is getting tiresome, Chad. Just admit that you don't have any evidence, and stop being so tremendously arrogant as to decide that you know what we think or believe better than we do.

I wouldn't call that a coincidence. I would most likely exclaim something like "Wow! Really? I wonder what causes that?" and look into the subject with fascinated interest. What I definitely would not do is immediately drop to my knees and prostrate myself at the feet of a god that you or your fellows tell me is there.

Mind you, this is all dependent on there being such physical evidence in the first place. Got any?

(December 8, 2013 at 10:06 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: If you teach the subject, then it should not escape your attention that Father in Hebrew is Aleph Bet (Letters), Mother is Aleph Mem (Water) and Son is Bet Nun, or the House of Seed. DNA is stitched with this thread and it should be evident, especially for someone who teaches the subject daily. The human body is a marvel of engineering and is a masterpiece of creative design and artistry. To deny this is to deny the simplest of evident truths.

I'm going to try, one last time, to help you figure this out. You've made a claim, that this Aleph Bet stuff matches DNA. The problem we're having is that postgame comparisons like this don't actually tell us anything, because you could equally just change your tune if things were different. Let's be clear: drawing attention to patterns that you can see isn't any form of proof of anything grander than the fact that you can see patterns. I made just such a comparison earlier in the thread, where I said that because one can make the word "gcat" from the letters of DNA, then all cats with names beginning with g must be the designers of DNA. Other than cultural acceptance, what's the difference between that claim and your christian one?

And to be clear, following up your initial claim with smug condescension and appeals to authority aren't helping your case.

If my only evidence were the three words, Father (Aleph Bet), Mother (Aleph Mem) and Son (Bet Nun), you might have an argument. I also have the facts concerning the 66 books outlining natural law in proverb, physics in metaphor and mathematical constants of quantum mechanics tucked into the mathematics of the words and letters. Not only this, but the heptadic structure of the Bible is consistent throughout. The story of our origin is outlined for simple minds, elements are outlined according to their uses for creation and God goes so far as to name the atomic number of mankind in relation to a commerce system some 2000 years before that system engages.

In Genesis 3, God stated that the fruit we were not to touch was in the middle of the garden and that it was related to the fruit of knowledge, or what knowledge produces. Technology is that fruit of knowledge. Carbon is the fruit in the middle of the Garden. We die because of the use of that fruit.

In Revelation 13, that fruit is then given a mark.

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e-or of mankind] That number is 666.

Carbon has 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons. It is the mark of mankind and the basis for our fruit of knowledge. The breath is Nitrogen 777 and Oxygen 888. What chokes the breath and ends the nitrogen cycle? Carbon. To be exact, floral-carbons, which are fluorine mixed with carbon. Fluorine is 999. Fluoride is a byproduct of uranium enrichment and mixed with our toothpaste and water. Many people suspect that one goal of the fluoride is to calcify the pineal gland. Uranium is the fire that eventually burns the Earth after the flood. Baptism is our immersion into the waters of life. You must be born again. In other words, all of the symbolism tells our story from beginning to end.

Isaiah 46: “I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.’”

If you read the verses before the one I quoted from Revelation, you have a picture of a commerce system built on the mark of mankind, or Carbon trading. The early stages of this is the petrol dollar. Later, it will be Cap and Trade (Carbon Trading on the open market). When the monetary system is finally crashed for good, the new system will be an attempt to heal the environment. It will be forced.

History proves the Bible's predictions to be accurate. I get that you are blind to this, but there may be others that get what I say. I wish you luck and hope your ears open.

My foundation is endless and relies on an overall context, not simply a part. It is a broad territory. This thread was designed to show you the root at the simplest point of truth possible.

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(December 8, 2013 at 11:05 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I wouldn't call that a coincidence. I would most likely exclaim something like "Wow! Really? I wonder what causes that?" and look into the subject with fascinated interest. What I definitely would not do is immediately drop to my knees and prostrate myself at the feet of a god that you or your fellows tell me is there.

Mind you, this is all dependent on there being such physical evidence in the first place. Got any?

Yes. The Bible is the enigma of unlimited knowledge in layers. I showed some of this in my last post with Carbon as the Mark of mankind listed in Revelation 13. There is no way the author of Revelation knew that 666 was Carbon, yet there it is. This is evidence. Aleph Bet is evidence. The hidden information in Hebrew is evidence. The speed of light encoded in scripture is evidence, as well as pi, e and many other constants. We are aware of these things in the Pyramids, the Bible and many other places from antiquity. We are left with a puzzle and enigma. Either we attribute this to aliens, past enlightened civilizations or God, but we cannot ignore the facts. This information is there and it has a signature exclaiming a divine power beyond our own.

Either God is Love and this is the highest axiom, or there is another. It boils down to our willingness to trust God in faith or hide from him in fear. Either way, the evidence will not go away. God is invariant and symmetrical, just as physics exclaims. This is a mirror of evidence. Law is the primary proof, yet Aleph Bet goes to the depths of the information system we live it. Evidence is not the problem. Pride is the problem, just as Genesis states.

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If you would like to dive deeper into why the premise of this thread is an accurate connection to DNA, see this article:

Aleph Bet Article

No, I said physical evidence on a par with finding the letters "YHVH is the Lord" written on all cells, not spuriously subjective and frankly downright questionable phrases from a text (that itself needs justification to be taken seriously as an authority), all of which is totally dependent on your personal interpretation and contortions. For example, how do you know that the scribe who wrote about the 666 numerology was talking about carbon at all? What is your justification for making such a leap?

Incidentally, that famous number is supposed to have been rendered as 616, apparently. Now make that fit your interpretation.

(December 8, 2013 at 11:11 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: If my only evidence were the three words, Father (Aleph Bet), Mother (Aleph Mem) and Son (Bet Nun), you might have an argument. I also have the facts concerning the 66 books outlining natural law in proverb, physics in metaphor and mathematical constants of quantum mechanics tucked into the mathematics of the words and letters. Not only this, but the heptadic structure of the Bible is consistent throughout. The story of our origin is outlined for simple minds, elements are outlined according to their uses for creation and God goes so far as to name the atomic number of mankind in relation to a commerce system some 2000 years before that system engages.

Yeah, and the plural of retrofitting is not evidence: it doesn't matter how much postgame wrangling and mental contortions you do, it's not going to suddenly morph into a compelling case. You're trying to add together a bunch of zeroes and expecting they'll eventually make a positive number.

Quote:In Genesis 3, God stated that the fruit we were not to touch was in the middle of the garden and that it was related to the fruit of knowledge, or what knowledge produces. Technology is that fruit of knowledge. Carbon is the fruit in the middle of the Garden. We die because of the use of that fruit.

Like this! What basis do you even have for this interpretation? Nothing! You're just telling us what you think, as though it becomes true by virtue of you thinking it. That's not how rationality works, and when you combine that with all those smug little references to our simple minds and whatnot, your credibility has just crashed through the floor, and your lack of self awareness is ensuring that it's never coming back.

You've given us no reason to think you're any more in possession of the truth than the crazy man with the sign on the corner.