Here is a question that is troubling me: if there is no God, then, one may ask, who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?

You should be able to answer the question, since you somehow found out that someone is. So go ahead, enlighten us, who?

First, realize that it is not a "who" but a "what." Then, gently try to tease the meat of your head out through your anal sphincter.

You are missing an option.

C. FUCKING NOTHING

Where is the no-one or nothing option?

(December 10, 2013 at 2:22 am)DOS Wrote: Here is a question that is troubling me: if there is no God, then, one may ask, who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?

Cultures govern human life, according to the community's values.

This sounds like another simplistic, semi-ludicrous thread that is only going to get more and more absurd as it goes on.

Questions like these are really annoying. Because it's not actually what you want to ask, it's hidden in a hypothetical and framed as a question so that you can get away with a lot of unfounded assumptions.

If we take away the "if god doesn't exist" and deal with the rest of the question. You first have to show that there is indeed an order to the world that is governed by one single entity and not an order that resulted from the meddling of many different entities. Then only you get to ask who it is.

There is almost nothing you can show that will qualify inserting "if god doesn't exist" to the front of that sentence because it assumes that god would be the default answer. When the truth is the nature of god cannot even be articulated without introducing at least one logically impossible condition. So the question is invalid.

And then you introduce the false dichotomy that it has to be god or man. Well what if it is the fucking flying spaghetti monster?

(December 10, 2013 at 2:22 am)DOS Wrote: Here is a question that is troubling me: if there is no God, then, one may ask, who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?

How do you justify assuming there must be a 'who'? Further, there's an obvious regress problem here. If everything must have a higher power to explain its order, it follows that God must have a higher power to explain his order, and that higher power must have an order-inducing higher power of its own, and so on ad infinitum.

Are you ever going to think your posts through or just chuck up softballs everytime? >:l

The question is malformed gibberish. One might just as well ask "If there is no God, then who is holding the sky up?"

(December 10, 2013 at 3:05 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Questions like these are really annoying. Because it's not actually what you want to ask, it's hidden in a hypothetical and framed as a question so that you can get away with a lot of unfounded assumptions.

If we take away the "if god doesn't exist" and deal with the rest of the question. You first have to show that there is indeed an order to the world that is governed by one single entity and not an order that resulted from the meddling of many different entities. Then only you get to ask who it is.

There is almost nothing you can show that will qualify inserting "if god doesn't exist" to the front of that sentence because it assumes that god would be the default answer. When the truth is the nature of god cannot even be articulated without introducing at least one logically impossible condition. So the question is invalid.

And then you introduce the false dichotomy that it has to be god or man. Well what if it is the fucking flying spaghetti monster?