That's basically me
Reason: Don't want to be a slave (Unleashes the chains)

You don't follow either.They are the two possible options when it comes to beliefs on the following claim "a God exists".

1) You believe the claim. - You are a Theist.
2) You disbelieve the claim. THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE, although you may. You are an Atheist.

There is also the statement "no God exists". This is a different claim, which you may believe or disbelieve. You can disbelieve both claims!

A good analogy is a coin toss. The equivalent of the Atheist/Theist claim is "the coin will show Heads". Unless you have good evidence, the natural thing to do is disbelieve this claim. Again, this does not mean you must believe the claim "the coin will show Tails". The rational thing to do in this case is disbelieve both claims.

(January 13, 2014 at 6:08 am)FreeTony Wrote: You don't follow either.They are the two possible options when it comes to beliefs on the following claim "a God exists".

1) You believe the claim. - You are a Theist.
2) You disbelieve the claim. THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE, although you may. You are an Atheist.

There is also the statement "no God exists". This is a different claim, which you may believe or disbelieve. You can disbelieve both claims!

A good analogy is a coin toss. The equivalent of the Atheist/Theist claim is "the coin will show Heads". Unless you have good evidence, the natural thing to do is disbelieve this claim. Again, this does not mean you must believe the claim "the coin will show Tails". The rational thing to do in this case is disbelieve both claims.

So for me, it will likely be like the coin just disappeared for me then, because i have belief in myself. I am neither a follower of Theism or Atheism.

Because i have a name to be proud off. But its cool if people choose their own way in life

(January 13, 2014 at 6:11 am)Rinnard Wrote: So for me, it will likely be like the coin just disappeared for me then, because i have belief in myself. I am neither a follower of Theism or Atheism.

Well, the point of that analogy just flew right over your head.

Again, there's nothing to "follow" in atheism; it's merely the position that you don't believe theist claims. Don't believe that there's a god?

Congrats: you're an atheist.

Do you believe a God exists?

(January 13, 2014 at 6:23 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(January 13, 2014 at 6:11 am)Rinnard Wrote: So for me, it will likely be like the coin just disappeared for me then, because i have belief in myself. I am neither a follower of Theism or Atheism.

Well, the point of that analogy just flew right over your head.

Again, there's nothing to "follow" in atheism; it's merely the position that you don't believe theist claims. Don't believe that there's a god?

Congrats: you're an atheist.

I just don't want it as a label, its identity theft, i love my name
Just as i love each of the names and meanings of others

Besides i feel like i am being recruited to join something, so i can't

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No but it sounds cool
I am my own person
I believe in the truth.

(January 13, 2014 at 6:25 am)Rinnard Wrote: I just don't want it as a label, its identity theft, i love my name
Just as i love each of the names and meanings of others

Sure, I get that, but you understand that we use words to describe people, beyond just their names, right?

Frankly, this A/Theism thing is merely a label that describes your position on this single issue, and as such is a part of a much larger description of what makes you, you.

If you don't want to use the word, whatever. I ain't gonna force it on you. But we do use it for a reason.

(January 13, 2014 at 5:10 am)Rinnard Wrote: That's basically me
Reason: Don't want to be a slave (Unleashes the chains)

"Special," "Unique," "One-of-a-Kind."

(January 13, 2014 at 6:31 am)Esquilax Wrote: If you don't want to use the word, whatever. I ain't gonna force it on you. But we do use it for a reason.

It avoids painful conversations, as this is turning into .

Well there's always Agnostic if you're really not sure.