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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 6:17 pm
(January 12, 2014 at 12:31 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: He was a great man, he will be missed. At least he isn't in a vegetative state anymore.
What are your thoughts on this great man's life? Ariel Sharon was one of Israel's greatest leaders and military commanders. I liked Ariel Sharon.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 8:03 pm
(January 13, 2014 at 3:20 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Or so you claim. In truth libertarians & ancaps support the Arabs simply because they hate the Jews. Nice sweeping generalizations there. I'm afraid that I'm living proof that you are incorrect, as a Libertarian who neither supports the Palestinians or the Israelis. Oh, and I have absolutely no problems with Jewish people either. Being racist is an entirely anti-Libertarian position.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 8:19 pm
(January 13, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (January 13, 2014 at 3:20 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Or so you claim. In truth libertarians & ancaps support the Arabs simply because they hate the Jews. Nice sweeping generalizations there. I'm afraid that I'm living proof that you are incorrect, as a Libertarian who neither supports the Palestinians or the Israelis. Oh, and I have absolutely no problems with Jewish people either. Being racist is an entirely anti-Libertarian position. Bullshit. Murray Rothbard mixed libertarianism & racism. You are just using your favorite fallacy; no true libertarian.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 10:09 pm
Go educate yourself on the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. You fall into the same trap that most people do when trying to use it.
If you mix libertarianism and racism, then you get something other than libertarianism.
Libertarianism focuses on individual liberty; individualism. Racists prefer one group of people over another, based on an ultimately arbitrary and completely uncontrollable property. Ayn Rand (admittedly a quasi-libertarian at best) wrote "racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism". Collectivism is the polar opposite of individualism.
So please, explain to me how a Libertarian can support all people's right to liberty if he also believes that some people are superior because of their race, and should be treated differently?
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 10:17 pm
(January 13, 2014 at 10:09 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Go educate yourself on the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. You fall into the same trap that most people do when trying to use it.
If you mix libertarianism and racism, then you get something other than libertarianism.
Libertarianism focuses on individual liberty; individualism. Racists prefer one group of people over another, based on an ultimately arbitrary and completely uncontrollable property. Ayn Rand (admittedly a quasi-libertarian at best) wrote "racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism". Collectivism is the polar opposite of individualism.
So please, explain to me how a Libertarian can support all people's right to liberty if he also believes that some people are superior because of their race, and should be treated differently? Murray Rothbard, one of the chief deities of your religion, was a racist.
Also, stop pretending like you get to define libertarianism. Libertarianism was originally a synonym for social anarchism. Then capitalists stole it. So you don't get to define libertarianism, & libertarianism is so poorly defined that just about everyone can claim to be a libertarian. What you are doing is no true scotsman at its best.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 10:56 pm
Does anybody else suspect that EgoRaptor is actually our dear banned member catfish? They say the same dumb stuff about libertarianism and Ego joined a week after catfish was banned.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 11:02 pm
(January 13, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: Does anybody else suspect that EgoRaptor is actually our dear banned member catfish? They say the same dumb stuff about libertarianism and Ego joined a week after catfish was banned. Don't even know the guy. I shouldn't even be justifying this with a response.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 11:04 pm
(January 13, 2014 at 11:02 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: (January 13, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: Does anybody else suspect that EgoRaptor is actually our dear banned member catfish? They say the same dumb stuff about libertarianism and Ego joined a week after catfish was banned. Don't even know the guy. I shouldn't even be justifying this with a response.
Mmm hmm.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 11:05 pm
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(January 13, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: (January 13, 2014 at 11:02 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Don't even know the guy. I shouldn't even be justifying this with a response.
Mmm hmm. Was he 16? Was he into femdom? Was he a fan of Citizen Sade?
Was he a Zionist? Because if he was anything like me than he was a Zionist.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
January 13, 2014 at 11:07 pm
(January 13, 2014 at 11:05 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: (January 13, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: Mmm hmm. Was he 16? Was he into femdom? Was he a fan of Citizen Sade?
In half his posts he was trying to redefine libertarianism.
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