(January 13, 2014 at 11:24 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Brilliant.

Still waiting that your translator get better so you can finally answer those questions.
What is the difference between religion and spirituality?
What is the inner meaning of philosophy?
Can physical science lead to real progress?
I need your help, please let me know or i will go mad.

Way to late.

(January 14, 2014 at 11:01 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: Just because other people were found to be fake it does not mean that everyone that does incredible things is a fake.

True, but it does spread a blanket of "Liars" on the whole practice.
So those that are not phonies, if they wish to clear up the face of this practice, should step up for scrutiny...
The fact that they don't do it is indicative of something, care to guess what?

That is ridiculous.
Also God then should step up for scrutiny.
He should show up to any non believer.
Why should any one who has got any power whether is magical power or mental or spiritual power show these powers to non believer?
If you can't get it let me explain how the system works.
A magician that use tricks of course will not tell anyone in fear of competition but someone who has got mental or spiritual power will not tell other people for a different reason.
The reason is that it is important to grow up and learn the proper way step by step as a sudden rush of power could not be handle by people without a proper spiritual base.
Suppose that you are taught how to win money at the cassino.
What would you do?
You just would ruin your life chasing the materialistic path.
That is why you want be allow to know what you can't handle.

yes, of course... it's a different thing... of course... -.-'

(January 14, 2014 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: You start with the wrong foot.
You say......... how he does his tricks.......
You imply that what he does are tricks without bringing forward any evidence to back up your claim.
They could be tricks but they could also be the product of mental power.

Right.....playing semantics, thats......desperate. Tell me, what would you call them?

(January 14, 2014 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: Just because other people were found to be fake it does not mean that everyone that does incredible things is a fake.

True. But I never said everyone that does amazing things are fake.

(January 14, 2014 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: You generalize far too much and beside is you that lack of logic by asserting something that is not backed up by evidence.
Fail again boy.

Wait wait wait.....how can you accuse anyone of not backing up their claims with evidence? Do you not have any feelings of shame or humility? What you just wrote is the most hypocritical thing i have ever seen on AF.org. You are wrong just deal with it and stop with this madness.

(January 14, 2014 at 11:25 am)enrico Wrote: Why should any one who has got any power whether is magical power or mental or spiritual power show these powers to non believer?
If you can't get it let me explain how the system works.
A magician that use tricks of course will not tell anyone in fear of competition but someone who has got mental or spiritual power will not tell other people for a different reason.
The reason is that it is important to grow up and learn the proper way step by step as a sudden rush of power could not be handle by people without a proper spiritual base.

So, in other words, a person with spiritual powers will be indistinguishable from a person without spiritual powers. Got it. But that kind of blows up your argument that you "know" I'm not a yogini, as you're saying the authentic and the fake will look alike.

Beyond this, you're claiming that you know the reason that an authentic spiritually accomplished person does what they do. If accomplished spiritual people do not overtly demonstrate the reasoning of their accomplishment, the only way you would know why a spiritually accomplished person reveals the truth only covertly is if you yourself are such a spiritually accomplished person. This is clearly you claiming mastery, in spite of all your guff about how a true master doesn't boast of their mastery. But if a true master doesn't overtly acknowledge their mastery, and you've been boasting of your mastery since you got here, then that must mean you are not a master. Or even spiritually accomplished, for you know the signs of fakery - boasting - yet you display them anyway. It's almost as if you're at bottom nothing but a clueless twat mouthing inanities he picked up from a dogmatically based Hindu tantrism. Hmmm.....



(The book on NDEs is waiting at my library. I can't wait to be underwhelmed.)

(January 14, 2014 at 11:55 am)Bad Wolf Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: You start with the wrong foot.
You say......... how he does his tricks.......
You imply that what he does are tricks without bringing forward any evidence to back up your claim.
They could be tricks but they could also be the product of mental power.

Right.....playing semantics, thats......desperate. Tell me, what would you call them?

Me desperate?
Are you kidding?
It is you that came up with an assumption that is not backed up by evidence so is you that is floating in a sea of nothingness.

(January 14, 2014 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: Just because other people were found to be fake it does not mean that everyone that does incredible things is a fake.

Quote:True. But I never said everyone that does amazing things are fake.

An old saying........IF YOU SAY NOTHING OFTEN MEANS THAT YOU AGREE WITH IT........but of course you must have a SECRET reason for not saying anything when your friends make stupid assertions.

(January 14, 2014 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: You generalize far too much and beside is you that lack of logic by asserting something that is not backed up by evidence.
Fail again boy.

Quote:Wait wait wait.....how can you accuse anyone of not backing up their claims with evidence? Do you not have any feelings of shame or humility? What you just wrote is the most hypocritical thing i have ever seen on AF.org. You are wrong just deal with it and stop with this madness.

You have been saying for weeks and weeks that life is finite without bringing any evidence forward.
You only stop with this claim after Whateverist and Esq came up saying that there is no evidence that life is finite so keep your false rage and hypocrisy for yourself, thanks.

(January 14, 2014 at 1:26 pm)rasetsu Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:25 am)enrico Wrote: Why should any one who has got any power whether is magical power or mental or spiritual power show these powers to non believer?
If you can't get it let me explain how the system works.
A magician that use tricks of course will not tell anyone in fear of competition but someone who has got mental or spiritual power will not tell other people for a different reason.
The reason is that it is important to grow up and learn the proper way step by step as a sudden rush of power could not be handle by people without a proper spiritual base.

So, in other words, a person with spiritual powers will be indistinguishable from a person without spiritual powers. Got it. But that kind of blows up your argument that you "know" I'm not a yogini, as you're saying the authentic and the fake will look alike.

You are very fast in making assumptions with no foundations but very slow to back them up with solid evidence.
You see two persons dressing in the same way or two persons doing something similar so you assume that their intellect or their consciousness is the same.
Fail again Aph. (alias yogini)

Quote:Beyond this, you're claiming that you know the reason that an authentic spiritually accomplished person does what they do. If accomplished spiritual people do not overtly demonstrate the reasoning of their accomplishment, the only way you would know why a spiritually accomplished person reveals the truth only covertly is if you yourself are such a spiritually accomplished person. This is clearly you claiming mastery, in spite of all your guff about how a true master doesn't boast of their mastery. But if a true master doesn't overtly acknowledge their mastery, and you've been boasting of your mastery since you got here, then that must mean you are not a master. Or even spiritually accomplished, for you know the signs of fakery - boasting - yet you display them anyway. It's almost as if you're at bottom nothing but a clueless twat mouthing inanities he picked up from a dogmatically based Hindu tantrism. Hmmm

Here is where you fail again and here is where it show that you can not possibly be a real yoga person.
A real guru is God and God does not really care whether you are a white belt or a black belt as far as spirituality is concern.
All he-she care is your devotion in him-her.
If devotion is there you will be shown a lot of interesting things but that issue is something that non yogi will not know.

Quote:(The book on NDEs is waiting at my library. I can't wait to be underwhelmed.)

Shell i organize a party for the great moment?

(January 15, 2014 at 9:50 am)enrico Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:55 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Right.....playing semantics, thats......desperate. Tell me, what would you call them?

Me desperate?
Are you kidding?
It is you that came up with an assumption that is not backed up by evidence so is you that is floating in a sea of nothingness.

How about you try answering the question champ? What would you call Dynamo's 'tricks'

(January 15, 2014 at 9:50 am)enrico Wrote: An old saying........IF YOU SAY NOTHING OFTEN MEANS THAT YOU AGREE WITH IT........but of course you must have a SECRET reason for not saying anything when your friends make stupid assertions.

I didn't say nothing. You accused me of saying that all amazing people are fake, and I denied it.

(January 14, 2014 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: You generalize far too much and beside is you that lack of logic by asserting something that is not backed up by evidence.
Fail again boy.

Wrong, and that is all YOU have EVER done on here

(January 15, 2014 at 9:50 am)enrico Wrote: You have been saying for weeks and weeks that life is finite without bringing any evidence forward.
You only stop with this claim after Whateverist and Esq came up saying that there is no evidence that life is finite so keep your false rage and hypocrisy for yourself, thanks.

Liar! Its just beyond belief how someone can lie with such smugness and dishonesty, its just pathetic. I don't have to provide evidence for my claim because there is no evidence for your claim. Which, funnily enough, is evidence for my claim. And please don't go into that shit about cars and drivers and reincarnation and all of that utter rubbish you spout every time you can no longer understand an argument.