(January 25, 2014 at 1:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:34 am)Kitanetos Wrote: Your loss.

One doesn't have to love Germans. I don't love Germans. But I do respect Germans. They are the only people on earth that I deem to be "equals", besides the Japanese.

Screw the Japs. Now the Chinese, there is a great workers' culture. It saddens me that the Chinese suffer under a pseudo-radical quasi-communist regime. Sun Yat-sen forever!

Sun Yat-Sen Wrote:the end goal of the three people's principles [was] communism and anarchism.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:36 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: America has never committed a genocide.

So I guess the natives just freely handed over all of their land because we asked nicely, huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_i...ted_States

(January 25, 2014 at 1:42 am)Darkstar Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:36 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: America has never committed a genocide.

So I guess the natives just freely handed over all of their land because we asked nicely, huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_i...ted_States

The American Indians suffered great injustices, but I do not think that it constitutes a genocide.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:42 am)Darkstar Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:36 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: America has never committed a genocide.

So I guess the natives just freely handed over all of their land because we asked nicely, huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_i...ted_States

Well, true but I think that it was more like a survival of the fittest situation.
The Red indians were not able to persevere. Shame, but that's the reality.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:46 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: The American Indians suffered great injustices, but I do not think that it constitutes a genocide.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:46 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, true but I think that it was more like a survival of the fittest situation.
The Red indians were not able to persevere. Shame, but that's the reality.

Apologetics at work.

(January 25, 2014 at 12:57 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: Nietzsche was German, but was intelligent & therefore not a patriot of any sort. He wrote in his later life that the Kaiser should be shot & Germany destroyed.

Nietzsche wouldn't have shed a single tear for the Jews if he saw the gas chambers running full tilt.

Yes, Germany would stop being useful once it destroys Israel, wouldn't it.

Not too late to destroy Germany then.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:46 am)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:42 am)Darkstar Wrote: So I guess the natives just freely handed over all of their land because we asked nicely, huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_i...ted_States

The American Indians suffered great injustices, but I do not think that it constitutes a genocide.

If what happened to the American Indians doesn't qualify as a genocide, I don't think you can accuse the Germans of genocide, either. I mean, we killed a much larger percentage of the Native population than Hitler did the Jewish population, not to mention we damn near completely eradicated their culture while Jewish culture is still going strong.

I swear, I can't wait for the day EgoRaptor finds out he has German genes.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:46 am)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:42 am)Darkstar Wrote: So I guess the natives just freely handed over all of their land because we asked nicely, huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_i...ted_States

The American Indians suffered great injustices, but I do not think that it constitutes a genocide.

Why is it not a genocide, because the killed didn't die in gas chambers?

(January 25, 2014 at 1:51 am)TaraJo Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:46 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: The American Indians suffered great injustices, but I do not think that it constitutes a genocide.

If what happened to the American Indians doesn't qualify as a genocide, I don't think you can accuse the Germans of genocide, either. I mean, we killed a much larger percentage of the Native population than Hitler did the Jewish population, not to mention we damn near completely eradicated their culture while Jewish culture is still going strong.

I swear, I can't wait for the day EgoRaptor finds out he has German genes.

I am not a German! I am pure British & Irish, not something I'm particularly proud of, but at least I am not a German.

Also what you are saying amounts to belittlement of the shoah, a crime in many countries.

Quote:Apologetics at work.

Sorry, what? I'm not even American.
However I do see the situation as nothing more than what I just said. We too, had to resort to doing the same thing while establishing our own Lebensraum throughout Eurasia.
However it was a lot more harder since we had to deal with enemies that were on more or less the same technological level.

Quote:If what happened to the American Indians doesn't qualify as a genocide, I don't think you can accuse the Germans of genocide, either. I mean, we killed a much larger percentage of the Native population than Hitler did the Jewish population, not to mention we damn near completely eradicated their culture while Jewish culture is still going strong.

I swear, I can't wait for the day EgoRaptor finds out he has German genes.

Actually, I don't think that the Native Americans and Jews should be compared to eachother. The Jews were very much like the early American settlers. At an initial disadvantage, due to their lack of knowledge of the strange land, its ways, and its native peoples.
Both have had hostile relations with the natives of the land, but later on gained the upper hand by adapting to their ways.
The settlers in America won, they drove out the Natives out of their lands, and flourished beyond what the pioneers would not even dream.
The Jews in Germany lost, being driven out by the natives.

The real difference was in that the European settlers and Jews used different weapons to accomplish their goals.