(January 25, 2014 at 1:41 pm)Alex K Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 12:52 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: People always act like it is an illegitimate defence, when in reality, one who associates with [insert group here] is highly unlikely to be prejudiced against [insert group here].

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Hate the untermenschen culture, not the untermensch!

Hey Nietzsche Expert, where does he introduce or use the term Untermensch?

He doesn't, untermensch is an adapted term from Nietzsche's ubermensch.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:45 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:41 pm)Alex K Wrote: Hey Nietzsche Expert, where does he introduce or use the term Untermensch?

He doesn't, untermensch is an adapted term from Nietzsche's ubermensch.

The term Übermensch is not a collective term, but one that is highly individualistic in nature. So it is not applicable to collective notions such as ethnicities, races, or groups of religious, political or cultural nature.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:48 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:45 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: He doesn't, untermensch is an adapted term from Nietzsche's ubermensch.

The term Übermensch is not a collective term, but one that is highly individualistic in nature. So it is not applicable to collective notions such as ethnicities, races, or groups of religious, political or cultural nature.

Ubermensch is a highly individualistic term, although untermensch is more of a collective term. Nietzsche's individualism appeals highly to me.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:52 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:48 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: The term Übermensch is not a collective term, but one that is highly individualistic in nature. So it is not applicable to collective notions such as ethnicities, races, or groups of religious, political or cultural nature.

Ubermensch is a highly individualistic term, although untermensch is more of a collective term. Nietzsche's individualism appeals highly to me.

Well it doesn't to me. Individuals come and go. But collective consciousness remains throughout generations.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:45 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:41 pm)Alex K Wrote: Hey Nietzsche Expert, where does he introduce or use the term Untermensch?

He doesn't

Exactly

(January 25, 2014 at 1:04 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

I kudosed this. Not because I enjoy that original twisted depiction, but because it appears to me that one particular poster manages to take up the appearance that should've been considered stereotypical, false and disgusting. He manages to combine the worst of stereotypes with the genocidal nature of national Socialism or Stalinist Communism.

I noted earlier that he did more harm to the cause of positively viewing Israelis or Zionists then any ideology that Hamas et al usually do.

Thankfully I like to remember that he's in no way representative of the majority of them.

But it still is extremely annoying.

Were I an ardent supporter of Israel that could explain my viewpoints accordingly, I would be very upset at having to fight off this misrepresentative troll every time.

It's like trying to discuss issues of ethnic and racial persecution in different areas of the world and then having a white or black nationalist explain just how superior they really are to all other races. Such can only serve to damage, distract and create confusion when one is really trying to reach egalitarian society.

(January 25, 2014 at 2:44 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:04 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

I kudosed this. Not because I enjoy that original twisted depiction, but because it appears to me that one particular poster manages to take up the appearance that should've been considered stereotypical, false and disgusting. He manages to combine the worst of stereotypes with the genocidal nature of national Socialism or Stalinist Communism.

I noted earlier that he did more harm to the cause of positively viewing Israelis or Zionists then any ideology that Hamas et al usually do.

Thankfully I like to remember that he's in no way representative of the majority of them.

But it still is extremely annoying.

Were I an ardent supporter of Israel that could explain my viewpoints accordingly, I would be very upset at having to fight off this misrepresentative troll every time.

It's like trying to discuss issues of ethnic and racial persecution in different areas of the world and then having a white or black nationalist explain just how superior they really are to all other races. Such can only serve to damage, distract and create confusion when one is really trying to reach egalitarian society.

You are a leftist thug who thinks Islam is a race.

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Also, I am anti-Stalinist. Stalinism is a totalitarian ideology that oppresses the individual. Modern leftist thugs are all Stalinists.

(January 25, 2014 at 2:46 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: You are a leftist thug who thinks Islam is a race.

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Also, I am anti-Stalinist.

To clarify I am leftist – centrist. I do not appreciate extremism and I do not appreciate yours.

In the terms of anthropological studies, The classification of Islam as a racial grouping is correct.

That is were you to try to genocide everyone who believes in Islam, that would constitute a form of racial persecution just like it did for the Jews during the Holocaust. Not all Jews liquidated during Holocaust were completely of Semitic descent.

I have no love for extremists. No matter the religion, ethnic descent, political beliefs or parental background.

(January 25, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 2:46 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: You are a leftist thug who thinks Islam is a race.

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Also, I am anti-Stalinist.

To clarify I am leftist – centrist. I do not appreciate extremism and I do not appreciate yours.

In the terms of anthropological studies, The classification of Islam as a racial grouping is correct.

That is were you to try to genocide everyone who believes in Islam, that would constitute a form of racial persecution just like it did for the Jews during the Holocaust. Not all Jews liquidated during Holocaust were completely of Semitic descent.

I have no love for extremists. No matter the religion, ethnic descent, political beliefs or parental background.

You claim to dislike extremism yet you are so obviously a multiculti Stalinist-leftist extremist. You bend the definition of race & racism. Also, I don't want to kill or harm any Moslems, I merely wish to de-convert them. I even said in the thread about atheists beating up Moslems that I don't think it is okay to harm Moslems unless in self-defence.

Is he OBVIOUSLY a multiculti Stalinist-leftist extremist because he disagrees with you? I'm starting to think that's your definition of 'extremist'.