God is usually defined as completely and truly self sufficient meaning that he's without need. If that's so, why'd he create anything?

When we do anything, it's because we have some sort of need. Doing that action fulfills that need. God creating something means that him existing by himself was not suffient i.e. he failed at being self suffient.

Obviously be needs billions of people to murder, torture, and to worship him to help his self esteem.

He needs toys to play with, and has an undying obsession with getting attention. Though if he already had angels, I'm not sure why he bothered with making this world.

(January 26, 2014 at 9:28 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: God is usually defined as completely and truly self sufficient meaning that he's without need. If that's so, why'd he create anything?

Kinda one of the perks of being the alpha and omega.. which means one gets to do what one wants without reason or a need to ahear to rules or our understanding.

Quote: When we do anything, it's because we have some sort of need. Doing that action fulfills that need. God creating something means that him existing by himself was not suffient i.e. he failed at being self suffient.

We are told God created everything because it pleased Him to do so.

If Yahweh is omniscient, does that mean he knows what gay sex feels like?

(January 26, 2014 at 10:04 pm)Sejanus Wrote: If Yahweh is omniscient, does that mean he knows what gay sex feels like?

Oh man. If there is a god, I hope he is gay. Imagine the reactions.

(January 26, 2014 at 9:58 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 26, 2014 at 9:28 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: God is usually defined as completely and truly self sufficient meaning that he's without need. If that's so, why'd he create anything?

Kinda one of the perks of being the alpha and omega.. which means one gets to do what one wants without reason or a need to ahear to rules or our understanding.

Which is a logical impossibility.

Quote:We are told God created everything because it pleased Him to do so.

Did God feel like being pleased? If so, he was in a state of want.

(January 26, 2014 at 9:58 pm)Drich Wrote: Kinda one of the perks of being the alpha and omega.. which means one gets to do what one wants without reason or a need to ahear to rules or our understanding.

If God operates without reason, then he is just a mindless and unintelligent process.

You know, just like the universe.

(January 26, 2014 at 10:07 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: Which is a logical impossibility.

not if you understand what the term mean. To be alpha and omega the beginning and end to all things literally means one has the power to do whatever he wants.

It means God literally has the first and last word on everything meaning there are no principles or laws natural or 'moral' in which he must adhear to. This is why I scoff at those looking to hold tight to the doctrines of an Omni max God. For god to be omni max he must adhear to the rules of omni-max-ness. Thus all of the lovely paradoxes you all like to confound yourselves with in the name of 'logic.' Thus over looking or not being able to see what true power is. It's not the omni-max that we humans think to be all powerful. Complete power comes in a form of a phrase that most of you have heard all your life and yet did not understand so it was brushed off in favor of the doctrines of an Omni max God. When in Fact real 'omnipotence' and complete power is not defined by the rules and definitions of those words and terms. Real power comes in the form of being able to do whatever one wishes.

Example: can an Omni max create a rock so big he could not lift it? Answer:paradox no matter what is said we know an Omni max can not exist because this delima defeats the idea of an omni max.

Now can an alpha and omega created a rock so big he could not lift it? Meh.. If He wanted to yes, if not no..

With this 'logic' one can untie every single paradox from epericus to Dawkins based on the unbiblical idea of an Omni max God.

Quote:Did God feel like being pleased? If so, he was in a state of want.

Firstly so?

Secondly how do you know what was on God's mind? By your questions and statements, you do not seem to grasp where God's true power lies. So how or who are you to say what state God was in, at the point of creation?

Even if you can somehow point to something and say yes God was in a point of want... I refer you back to point one. So? As alpha and omega God gets to do what God wants to do. It's only the Middle Ages understanding of God that says God can't want things.

If he's not omni-max then he is not worth worshiping.